tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post1911820961581956621..comments2024-03-28T20:28:01.733-04:00Comments on Mike Norman Economics: Kristen Breitweiser: Trump Lets Saudis Off on 9/11 Evidencemike normanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03296006882513340747noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-43078902515460298952017-05-26T15:42:01.000-04:002017-05-26T15:42:01.000-04:00Matt: "Hillary lost ... hello..."
Irrel...Matt: "Hillary lost ... hello..."<br /><br />Irrelevant. Deep state, baby. And Trump has been consumed by it. He's all in BIGLY, as shown by his decision to bomb Syria's armed forces and thereby strengthen the jihadi forces, and worse still by his demented decision to make Iran an enemy. <br /><br />Has there ever been a more disturbing sight in modern history than standing by the King of Saudi Arabia and claiming that Iran is the number one supporter of terrorism? Utterly obscene, and we know Trump thought the exact opposite not so long ago. Like every president before him, Trump is a danger to mankind by siding with the jihadis against the secularists. Jihadis should be killed, not aided. There is no chance now that this blustering clown won't start some insane war and aid the jihadis. Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18181631191840432399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-53285007717740247442017-05-26T15:29:52.270-04:002017-05-26T15:29:52.270-04:00Well that is how you end up with Dresden/Hamburg.....<i>Well that is how you end up with Dresden/Hamburg... we are faaaaaaaaaarrrrr from that type of condition with the Muslim world... they would have to go full on WMD type attack and then maybe we would get there...</i><br /><br />Matt, you seem to be unaware of the devastation in Afghanistan and Iraq. In Iraq, the city of Mosul was flattened, for example. Millions of people have been displaced.<br /><br />Vietnam was also not only destroyed but the ground was also poisoned with Agent Orange.<br /><br />The US leadership was infuriated that they couldn't defeat a bunch of ragtag guerrillas in pajamas. So they kept upping the ante, not only in Vietnam but also Laos and Cambodia. These were terrible crimes against humanity. And Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-70309585695274034062017-05-26T14:36:45.211-04:002017-05-26T14:36:45.211-04:00They are setting up safe zones Tom with hard bound...<i>They are setting up safe zones Tom with hard boundaries... come near those boundaries and they kill you... it's going to get a lot more harsh under Trump...</i><br /><br />Without UN authorization, it is illegal aggression, the most serious war crime.<br /><br />Those "safe zone" are meant to partition Syria, a sovereign nation, against its will.<br /><br />Let's cut the BS, and call a spade a spade.Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-86651190511292904722017-05-26T14:02:34.124-04:002017-05-26T14:02:34.124-04:00They are setting up safe zones Tom with hard bound...They are setting up safe zones Tom with hard boundaries... come near those boundaries and they kill you... it's going to get a lot more harsh under Trump... Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-24440390263987483612017-05-26T13:55:40.174-04:002017-05-26T13:55:40.174-04:00Mattis has gone in anyway. Trump is reversing Obam...Mattis has gone in anyway. Trump is reversing Obama's policy of only using covert ops. Now the US military is increasingly involved within Syria, constituting a violation of international law of the most serious type — international aggression.<br /><br />Trump and Mattis and their cronies an minions join Bush, Cheney, Obama, and their cronies an minions as war criminals. Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-82476605913446128992017-05-26T13:48:12.514-04:002017-05-26T13:48:12.514-04:00"gence Agency's top secret report which d..."gence Agency's top secret report which details the US and Gulf states plan to partition and create a Salafi jihadi state within Syria."<br /><br />Hillary lost ... hello...Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-44501233937460896852017-05-26T13:45:46.309-04:002017-05-26T13:45:46.309-04:00I'm not advocating anything I'm just telli...I'm not advocating anything I'm just telling you guys the way it is....Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-32942705092253253972017-05-26T12:27:26.515-04:002017-05-26T12:27:26.515-04:00breaks your own armed forces in the process
This ...<i>breaks your own armed forces in the process</i><br /><br />This is key. <br /><br />For example, Hitler had the good sense to separate the regular military from the "punitive" paramilitaries like the SS. Otherwise the regular military — people with a conscience — will get disgusted.<br /><br />Something similar is now taking place in Ukraine.<br /><br />The US uses special forces. I was talking to friend who was a former special ops type. I asked him why he left. He said one day her realized that he was killing people and they had wives and children. He got disgusted with it and didn't re-up.<br /><br />I had a similar experience when I was serving during the Vietnam Conflict although being in the navy I was not directly involved, even though operating in the area. But we were supporting it. Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-50161326771710460002017-05-26T12:06:42.521-04:002017-05-26T12:06:42.521-04:00Much more harsh.... "if they don't listen...Much more harsh.... "if they don't listen, just kill 'em... "<br /><br />Brash talk isn't a strategy. Dubya had it, and the military mutinied because the kind of "strategy" that follows in the wake of simpleminded and knee-jerk decisions is counterproductive and breaks your own armed forces in the process. The obese paedophile fraudster is also a simpleton: who knew health care could be so difficult?! China's premier had to explain the difficulties with respect to North Korea?! Etc, etc...Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18181631191840432399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-26416773052504434382017-05-26T12:00:59.305-04:002017-05-26T12:00:59.305-04:00"All of these nations allow terrorists to ope..."All of these nations allow terrorists to operate within their territory with impunity so therefore the governments of those nations are going to be operated against or directly attacked militarily..."<br /><br />Zero evidence for this. Did Germany allow the 9/11 terrorists "to operate within their territory with impunity"? <br /><br />The only terrorist group to have attacked the US is Al Qaeda. The Afghans had no idea what Bin Laden and his whack jobs were up, just in the same way Germany didn't. Did the US allow "terrorists to operate within their territory with impunity"? Some of the 9/11 terrorists did their flight training at a school in Florida. Similarly, with the UK and the recent terror attack. <br /><br />Yes, states go to war with other guilty states, not innocent ones who haven't the foggiest idea that terrorists are meeting and organising in their territory. <br /><br />Anyway, all of this is total bullshit while the US is joined at the hip to the reactionary jihadi Gulf petro-states. If you want someone to blame, look to Washington and their mad proxy wars using jihadis. After all, nobody denies the truth of the Defence Intelligence Agency's top secret report which details the US and Gulf states plan to partition and create a Salafi jihadi state within Syria. The highest levels in government admit that they want to create a jihadi state and your reaction is that the states who are the victims of this US-Saudi Salafi jiahdi creation should face Dresden-style saturation bombing! This is the same logic that Salafis have to rape victims: the raped woman has had a sexual act outside marriage and should be stoned to death.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18181631191840432399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-10670985789097394412017-05-26T10:58:37.437-04:002017-05-26T10:58:37.437-04:00His time ran out Tom.... you have to meet the sche...<i>His time ran out Tom.... you have to meet the schedule or you're fired...</i><br /><br />Who is going to fire him? The rebels? They are getting their asses kicked. The US-backed Kurds? All they want is a Kurdistan which is anathema to Turkey. That leaves it up to the "coalition." Which has to"work with" Russia or fight it. Are the America people up for thousands of US boots on the ground in the ME again?Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-37561255460281430922017-05-26T08:02:30.416-04:002017-05-26T08:02:30.416-04:00Btw new Trump doctrine now being implemented:
htt...Btw new Trump doctrine now being implemented:<br /><br />http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/05/18/us-air-strikes-pound-pro-assad-forces-in-syria.html<br /><br />Much more harsh.... "if they don't listen, just kill 'em... "Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-69934313000070438112017-05-26T07:50:11.023-04:002017-05-26T07:50:11.023-04:00"Assad can’t be that incompetent "
His ..."Assad can’t be that incompetent "<br /><br />His time ran out Tom.... you have to meet the schedule or you're fired...Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-74149008181241974752017-05-26T07:47:35.226-04:002017-05-26T07:47:35.226-04:00And the one side (Iran) is trying to starve the ot...And the one side (Iran) is trying to starve the other out for reasons of religious authority...Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-30870623354381372492017-05-26T07:44:04.375-04:002017-05-26T07:44:04.375-04:00"blowback"
It's not blowback they a..."blowback"<br /><br />It's not blowback they are on the other side...<br /><br />You have on the one side the gulf states trying to get more fossil fuel product up into fertile Europe in exchange for food... and on the other side they are trying to prevent this to starve them out.... we are allied with the side trying to get the food...<br /><br />Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-38929739877852359292017-05-26T07:30:37.691-04:002017-05-26T07:30:37.691-04:00You don't go to war against religion you go to...You don't go to war against religion you go to war against nations...<br /><br />All of these nations allow terrorists to operate within their territory with impunity so therefore the governments of those nations are going to be operated against or directly attacked militarily... this is not rocket science it has worked this way for entire human history...Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-46566990462538256112017-05-26T07:23:07.441-04:002017-05-26T07:23:07.441-04:00Maybe try Dresden/Hamburg.... Hiroshima/Nagasaki.....Maybe try Dresden/Hamburg.... Hiroshima/Nagasaki.... <br /><br />"What historical comparison would that be? The Holocaust? Pol Pot's Cambodia? "<br /><br />You're making my point here.... they got off easy.... could have been much worse....Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-87259001176727298252017-05-25T11:37:21.752-04:002017-05-25T11:37:21.752-04:00see Syria at present Assad being operated against ...<i>see Syria at present Assad being operated against for incompetence....</i><br /><br />Secular Syria has been under attack by Saudi and Qatari sponsored militants aided by the CIA for years. Israel has actively been opposed to the Assad regime forever as a link in the Shia crescent that links Iran and Hezbollah, which prevent Israel from dominating Lebanon.<br /><br />Assad can’t be that incompetence to have resisted the powerful forces aligned against him that are backed by the US and traditional Middle Eastern meddlers Britain and France.Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-47631956638983146042017-05-25T11:27:21.726-04:002017-05-25T11:27:21.726-04:00By any reasonable historical comparison Afghanista...<i>By any reasonable historical comparison Afghanistan got off easy.... really the entire MENA got off easy..... left and cuck right running this war....</i><br /><br />Yes, but "we" (US) are supposed to be "better than that." <br /><br />When the US is not better than that, soft power eroded and more hard power is needed to achieve objectives. It's a self-augmenting process. And now the US is sinking into the pit of history where empire go to die.Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-66366278596188270682017-05-25T06:45:14.872-04:002017-05-25T06:45:14.872-04:00You have to look at what the policy is of the seat...You have to look at what the policy is of the seated government... not what may or may not have been going on within the nation's territorial boundaries...<br /><br />What is the official policy?<br /><br />This is no guarantee that the seated govt will then be competent.... see Syria at present Assad being operated against for incompetence....<br /><br />Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-63383741026957289492017-05-25T06:13:50.923-04:002017-05-25T06:13:50.923-04:00By any reasonable historical comparison Afghanista...By any reasonable historical comparison Afghanistan got off easy.... really the entire MENA got off easy..... left and cuck right running this war....Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.com