tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post1938185014793282415..comments2024-03-28T07:50:06.102-04:00Comments on Mike Norman Economics: Failure of US Long Range Strategic Planning, National Economic Security, Public Lawmike normanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03296006882513340747noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-15896928098944269962012-09-21T16:53:12.136-04:002012-09-21T16:53:12.136-04:00Dan,
I think most people would wholeheartedly agr...Dan,<br /> I think most people would wholeheartedly agree with the easy to understand steps you lay out.<br /><br />An understandable goal is step one.<br /><br />Next, everyone in the country who agrees will ask ... "HOW do we do that? How do we start?"<br /><br />Personally, I think your outline is worth taking to both OWS and the TeaParty ... who both need graceful ways to achieve clearer direction.Roger Ericksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17515506247888521516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-78074273347916557712012-09-21T13:18:08.213-04:002012-09-21T13:18:08.213-04:00Certainly the first requirement, therefore, is a g...<i>Certainly the first requirement, therefore, is a groundswell of support across the nation for a referendum.</i><br /><br />I agree that the grassroots level is where change needs to come from. But I don't see a great deal of "wisdom of crowds" there at this point.<br /><br />There needs to be a debate among alternative paradigms so that the issues can be understood at the grassroots level otherwise people will be acting on a combination of "intuitive common sense," emotion, and narrow interest. This is why promulgating understanding of MMT, complexity, etc. are so important. The are not intuitive for most people, and the wisdom of the crowd is not likely to come up with this awareness without education.<br /><br />The problems we face now are global in scope and if humanity cannot rise to them as a species, there are going to a lot fewer humans around in the not too distant future. If we don't act together now, out children and grandchildren will be at risk, and the generations after that at greater risk.Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-3061713403788853122012-09-21T12:20:46.674-04:002012-09-21T12:20:46.674-04:00John;
Good response. You are really starting to ...John;<br /><br />Good response. You are really starting to loosen up. LOL. Actually I don't know that much about your opinions so I am glad you posted and gave me a little insight. <br /><br />I value your comments and assistance since we seem to share many opinions.Middleaged-Living-in-a-Land-of-Makebeleivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09135314675614265950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-58230612251264550322012-09-21T12:16:24.296-04:002012-09-21T12:16:24.296-04:00Hi Tom;
Thanks for the comment. I read it yesterd...Hi Tom;<br /><br />Thanks for the comment. I read it yesterday and wanted to think on it. I suspect that you and Roger are better readers and writers than I. I am a bit daunted by both your's and Roger's prose. <br /><br />I will say that although many people are poor at writing bullet charts, they may have shaped my writing and I find them very easy to understand.<br /><br />I appreciate your comments and agree that systems approaches are needed. I would go further and say that we don't really know what we are doing till we get down to documents processes and functions, and looking at what is really happening at the user level. <br /><br />Maybe I want to point out the weakness of looking at the big picture and discussing tactics. Success will only be achieved by really knowing the many, many, many Users, smaller systems, smaller processes, smaller functions, etc. <br /><br />Certainly the first requirement, therefore, is a groundswell of support across the nation for a referendum.<br /><br />Leadership and dynamic front-men will have to be found, guided, created, and be vital to any social movement.Middleaged-Living-in-a-Land-of-Makebeleivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09135314675614265950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-85275041822271266382012-09-20T20:13:27.195-04:002012-09-20T20:13:27.195-04:00Good post and definitely the direction in which na...Good post and definitely the direction in which nations need to be thinking, although if the US doesn't take the lead, it is unlikely to happen otherwise, at least to the liking of the US. In that case, the US would oppose change and has the means to do so.<br /><br />Our species needs to adopt a systems approach globally, marshaling all resources that intelligence can bring to bear on the challenges of our time. A systems approach in this regard needs to be global in scope. The task must be approached through geo-policy > geo-strategy > operational strategies >and tactics down to the local level. <br /><br />If we as a species cannot coordinate sufficiently in this way, they policies, strategies, tactics, and operations will be nationally determined from the top down and therefore will be nationalistic, on one hand, and favor the ruling elite, on the other. We know from studying history where that leads.<br /><br />Policy deals with goals and planning and operations with achieving outcomes iaw the objectives that goals determine. Policy requires criteria for goal-setting, and this necessarily involves norms, hence reference to rules such as values, cultural mores, and institutional arrangements. Creation of a global policy agenda and species level goals is daunting, but necessary. It cannot be top down and also be effective. Contemporary communications media make this possible at this stage of species development.<br /><br />Unless a global debate is conducted intelligently within a comprehensive universe of discourse, the consequences are unlikely to be satisfactory. The question is whether our species is up to this challenge, given the prevailing level of collective consciousness. Technology cannot make up for the general level of intelligence lagging behind the level of challenge.<br /><br />If the prevailing level of collective consciousness not up to this yet, and I think it is probably not at this point, then what can be done to raise the collective level of consciousness quickly enough to a sufficient level to increase the adaptability rate ensure that rate of return on coordination exceeds the rate of increase in complexity.<br /><br />For example, today I read a news report in which one of the scientists involved in the study of climate change was quoted as saying that public awareness of the threat is way behind scientists' awareness of it and that scientists were extremely concerned about the likely consequences for the world, which we are already beginning to experience.Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-21643432656320203752012-09-20T19:12:42.566-04:002012-09-20T19:12:42.566-04:00Let me write a comment for someone who didn't....Let me write a comment for someone who didn't. (Hint: This is sarcasm.)<br /><br /><i>What a bunch of Clappy Trap!<br /><br />Everyone knows that free markets will by their very actions produce the optimal welfare for a society.<br /><br />Planning Smanning!<br /><br />If you turned all the unethical and the criminologic loose in the world with no regulation there would be almost instantaneous establishment of an ideal economy and society with the competition assuring that everyone got the maximum utility.<br /><br />How do I know? Didn't Adam Smith say there was a benevlont invisible hand? Didn't Aynd Rand show us that greed and selfishness is good? Didn't Milton Friedman show us that all we have to do is ration money and let people fight over it to get a perfect result?<br /><br />You've got some nerve posting such garbage as this piece.</i><br /><br />More serously, this is the best written piece I have read by you.John Lounsburynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-70486183493515872682012-09-19T22:24:43.473-04:002012-09-19T22:24:43.473-04:00Thanks Roger. You remind me that my point is also...Thanks Roger. You remind me that my point is also that organizations are part of the community, state, and country. And Long Range Strategic Planning focused as it is on it's own goals is acting like a maverick, acting like a loner, acting to the exclusion of national identity and responsibility. They ARE Acting like an off-shore privateer or like a pirate. <br /><br />"A man or a woman can commit a patriotic act by serving in the military" "However a corporation can never commit a patriotic act". I forget who made this quote (I paraphrase and added woman because when this country was founded women could not join the military).<br /><br />There is nothing wrong with forcing corporations to serve the country if not the community by being transparent. I think we would expect the same of NGOs, Foundations, PACs, 501 (c)(4) organizations, 527 organizations (soft money), and any legal entity formed or incorporated in the USA. <br /><br /><br />US Legal entity must be better citizens or state economy participants.Middleaged-Living-in-a-Land-of-Makebeleivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09135314675614265950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-28668619898658564952012-09-19T14:42:17.038-04:002012-09-19T14:42:17.038-04:00Yes, even broader discussion of balancing local/na...Yes, even broader discussion of balancing local/national policies would help - just by getting more people to think.<br /><br />We need a dynamic equilibrium between narrow & national goals. Making that process even more dynamic will require increasingly distributed amounts of increasingly tuned feedback. <br /><br />You can't continuously tune a growing economy without constantly improving the tuning methods.<br /><br />This ain't rocket science, which is what economists keep trying to make it.Roger Ericksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17515506247888521516noreply@blogger.com