tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post3533326364266896134..comments2024-03-28T07:50:06.102-04:00Comments on Mike Norman Economics: Diana Johnstone — The Main Issue in the French Presidential Election: National Sovereigntymike normanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03296006882513340747noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-44307522004201285962017-04-22T12:19:59.567-04:002017-04-22T12:19:59.567-04:00"France to Germany: we will stay on the euro ..."France to Germany: we will stay on the euro currency. Germany to France: then all your euros are belong to us."<br /><br />Pretty much the same comment is made by most politicians in the Western world "there's no such thing as publicly created money only commercial banker created money."Schofieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11631047494218956929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-82126476278647725452017-04-22T11:51:29.363-04:002017-04-22T11:51:29.363-04:00How large is the European Alt-R, for whom race is ...How large is the European Alt-R, for whom race is an issue?<br />I don't know. Definitely not a majority.<br /><br />How many fanatics does it take to hijack a nationalist movement into an authoritarian nightmare?<br />Not that many.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-20850438672686631352017-04-22T10:29:56.407-04:002017-04-22T10:29:56.407-04:00What Johnstone says isn't quite right. While n...What Johnstone says isn't quite right. While national sovereignty is obviously a significant issue, clearly there is something else at play if neo-fascist parties like France's NF, Germany's AfD, Greece's Golden Dawn are garnering significant support, not to mention all the similar parties in almost every country in mainland Europe. Many of these parties either are direct descendants of 1930s fascist parties in some way or another, or model themselves on, and don't hide their admiration of, these parties that left Europe drowning in blood. It takes a good deal of naivete to claim ignorance of these overwhelming facts, but people do. Many people either feign disgust or are genuinely shocked when confronted with the facts. "Are you calling me a fascist?" they whimper. It's an unusual question. What else should you call someone who supports fascist parties and fascist policies? <br /><br />Now, before anyone asks what choice do people have, other than cast their votes for neo-fascists and admirers of the SS, it's not the right question to ask, because what should the people of Europe have done back in the thirties? After all, it's hardly news that succumbing to the madmen of the thirties did not work out so well. Why succumbing to this barely new breed of headbangers should work out for the better, requires more than mere assertion, especially when all the evidence is that nothing good can come from voting for authoritarian and nationalistic parties that can't see beyond the amount of melanin a human being carries or their religious beliefs. Anyone who believes that it won't be open season on minorities is living in a parallel universe.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18181631191840432399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-44868752288924816922017-04-21T17:31:49.150-04:002017-04-21T17:31:49.150-04:00djrichard - If that is Germany's attitude, the...djrichard - If that is Germany's attitude, then there is the plan B - from the paragraph <b>prior</b> to my quote above, it says<br /><br />Quote:<br /><i>In 2012, François Hollande was elected on the promise of renegotiating the Lisbon treaty, a promise he failed to hold, and proceeded to impose austerity measures in France (cutting down public spending and corporate taxes, flexibilising the labour market), constantly justifying these measures by the necessity to abide by European norms. He has thus fuelled a deep resentment against both the center-left and the EU. Meanwhile, Mélenchon has campaigned for a showdown with the EU: reform it or leave it (“plan A, plan B”).</i><br /><br />If France leaves, it is the end of the EU.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07198667003900590106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-87715104111360614512017-04-21T16:36:56.352-04:002017-04-21T16:36:56.352-04:00@Unknown
France to Germany: we will stay on the e...@Unknown<br /><br />France to Germany: we will stay on the euro currency. Germany to France: then all your euros are belong to us. http://www.finfacts.ie/cmsb/uploads/germany_trade_partners_2015_surplus_feb102016.jpg<br /><br />But we'll be happy to loan them back to you.djrichardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15687024819979476984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-87730369054297915722017-04-21T15:38:15.402-04:002017-04-21T15:38:15.402-04:00See also this article in the New Statesman - How J...See also this article in the New Statesman - <a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2017/04/how-jean-luc-m-lenchon-built-resistance" rel="nofollow">How Jean-Luc Mélenchon built a resistance</a><br /><br />Quote:<br /><i> His strategy, designed by his chief economist Jacques Généreux, consists of unilaterally disobeying European Treatises: disregarding budgetary norms to implement a Keynesian stimulus package, creating a public investment bank, and ending privatisation policies. His prognosis is that the EU will not dare exclude France because such an exclusion would signal the end of the European project altogether. The EU will thus have to inscribe French exceptions to the treatises (just as it had done for UK). Such exceptions could prove highly desirable to other austerity-stricken countries such as the infamous PIIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece and Spain), with enormous pressure placed on the most intransigent promoters of austerity, the chief of which is Germany.<br /><br />Far from being anti-European, this strategy is aimed to save the European project which, according to Généreux, is doomed to implode if unreformed. Généreux had reached this conclusion as early as 2012: Brexit and the European-wide rise of the far-right has confirmed his diagnosis. Unencumbered by a reluctant party, Mélenchon has been able to forcefully defend a position that Corbyn was unable to hold, thus shattering the “in/out, good/bad” dichotomy of the Remain and Leave campaigns in the UK.</i>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07198667003900590106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-84496955813754861292017-04-21T13:47:20.062-04:002017-04-21T13:47:20.062-04:00Stop calling them "left".Stop calling them "left".Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.com