tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post5239577071072379104..comments2024-03-28T20:28:01.733-04:00Comments on Mike Norman Economics: Almost everything you know about climate change solutions is outdatedmike normanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03296006882513340747noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-33439494699528232142016-09-27T11:36:04.801-04:002016-09-27T11:36:04.801-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-50874540572545058092016-09-27T11:19:54.165-04:002016-09-27T11:19:54.165-04:00What strategy? A bigger budget for the military an...What strategy? A bigger budget for the military and police to deal with these threats?Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-42099287789144676552016-09-26T23:06:46.362-04:002016-09-26T23:06:46.362-04:00Deep State on board with Climate Politics. Strateg...<a href="https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Reports%20and%20Pubs/Implications_for_US_National_Security_of_Anticipated_Climate_Change.pdf" rel="nofollow">Deep State on board with Climate Politics</a>. Strategy all laid out. Ryan Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04815033054435303399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-18926503153032237612016-09-26T17:09:13.458-04:002016-09-26T17:09:13.458-04:00I have a Panasonic camera which has an image stabi...I have a Panasonic camera which has an image stabiliser in it. The directors of Panasonic told their scientists to produce a better sensor, and then went ahead with production of the camera without the sensor ready. The scientists eventually came up with the sensor.<br /><br /> What I found interesting is that the directors had complete faith their scientists would develop the sensor if they threw sufficient money at the research. <br /><br />Bob put out interesting article put above about electrolysis.<br /><br />If private companies can't afford to do research into alternatives for rare earth magnets then our government should pay for the research to be done on our behalf. There are always solutions. Kaiveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04195639305785321786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-66378961936089386302016-09-26T15:27:54.818-04:002016-09-26T15:27:54.818-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ignaciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16082008115484199316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-87373460299148387572016-09-26T08:22:31.833-04:002016-09-26T08:22:31.833-04:00Electrolysis is much more efficient than tradition...<i><b>Electrolysis </b>is much more efficient than traditional heat-based smelting methods, because it is a single-step continuous process, Sadoway explains. The discovery of that process is what transformed aluminum, more than a century ago, from a precious metal more valuable than silver into a widely used inexpensive commodity. If the process could be applied to other common industrial metals such as copper, it would have the potential to significantly lower prices as well as reduce the air pollution and greenhouse gas emissions associated with traditional production.</i><br /><br />This baffles me. Why weren't these experiments carried out decades ago? Is there a theory in physics that precluded the use of electrolysis for other metals?Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-41552448904822289872016-09-26T08:13:11.450-04:002016-09-26T08:13:11.450-04:00Lifton wrote a series of posts back in 2009 that r...<i>Lifton wrote a series of posts back in 2009 that rearranged my head about what it takes to produce the rare earth magnets for one wind turbine alone. ONE.</i><br /><br />And of the stupidity of wasting it on a wind turbine instead of placing these magnets in a hydroelectric plant or gas fired plant or any base-load generating station.<br /><br />Yes, battery technology continues to improve... are you willing to make predictions about it?<br /><br />The two arguments I listed are the only ones I see with respect to the OP. If renewables are not scalable according to engineers, then planning must be changed and resources redirected elsewhere. Or just leave the whole fucking outcome to be decided by 'the market'.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-69144242336768434892016-09-26T00:10:11.853-04:002016-09-26T00:10:11.853-04:00Kaivey, when I say "Get off it," I mean ...Kaivey, when I say "Get off it," I mean disembark.MRWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13878920695841363553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-85547700905449283862016-09-26T00:07:19.702-04:002016-09-26T00:07:19.702-04:00@Kaivey, September 25, 2016 at 1:55 PM. Ditto Ben....@Kaivey, September 25, 2016 at 1:55 PM. Ditto Ben.<br /><br />You sound like George W Bush. "You either for us or against us."<br /><br />Denier. Alarmist.<br /><br />Get some goddam science under your belt. Stop breathing the helium, and bring the balloon back to the ground. Get off it.MRWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13878920695841363553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-24673906759085058462016-09-25T23:45:53.212-04:002016-09-25T23:45:53.212-04:00Don Sadoway at TED2012:
Reinventing the battery: D...Don Sadoway at TED2012:<br />Reinventing the battery: Donald Sadoway at TED2012<br />http://video.mit.edu/watch/ted-talks-donald-sadoway-the-missing-link-to-renewable-energy-10635/MRWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13878920695841363553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-6605925501822757732016-09-25T23:32:01.986-04:002016-09-25T23:32:01.986-04:00Tom Hickey said...
Link?
The link to the Lifton v...<i>Tom Hickey said...<br />Link?</i><br /><br />The link to the Lifton vid is what I gave above:<br />http://investorintel.com/technology-metals-intel/jack-lifton-recycling-nothing-not-option/<br /><br />The link to the Sadoway discovery announced four weeks ago is:<br />MIT announcement: http://dmse.mit.edu/news/new-smelting-method-developed-prof-don-sadoway<br /><br />Wanna' read more? The MIT press release:<br />http://news.mit.edu/2016/new-method-producing-some-metals-0824<br /><br />The Sadoway paper (for the scientifically inclined) is in <i>Nature Communications</i>, published August 24, 2016.<br />http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2016/160824/ncomms12584/full/ncomms12584.html<br /><br />But the Lifton video 10 days ago gives the significance of what Sadoway did.<br />MRWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13878920695841363553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-5868620564738376292016-09-25T23:24:29.021-04:002016-09-25T23:24:29.021-04:00@Bob, September 25, 2016 at 5:04 PM,
Far too narr...@Bob, September 25, 2016 at 5:04 PM,<br /><br />Far too narrow and simplistic a read about what I think, Bob. I write these comments of mine off the top of my head, so I apologize for the mental shorthand. Read the Lifton article and watch his video (above). That's what I think. I agree with him. I agree with his concentration on assessing available resources, what we're missing, the utter stupidity of the financial industry and 'markets' to understand the stakes and consequences of what they seemingly want to accomplish, and his disdain for the Kaivey-like Alice in Wonderland approach to the <i><b>actual science</b></i> of achieving what they say they want to accomplish. Lifton wrote a series of posts back in 2009 that rearranged my head about what it takes to produce the rare earth magnets <b>for one wind turbine</b> alone. <b>ONE</b>. He went through the applied science, step by step, in a vertical market.You don't just dig up some ore, smelt it, and produce rare earths. I was in a stupor for a week, dumbfounded by what I hadn't known about it and the extent of my naiveté and ignorance. <br /><br />The video came out after the announcement of Sadoway's August 25, 2016 discovery of his "smelting certain metals without releasing any greenhouse gas emissions." But Lifton explains the significance better. Sadoway is an environmental giant, btw. Check him out.<br />http://dmse.mit.edu/news/new-smelting-method-developed-prof-don-sadoway<br /><br />The article was written August 6, 2016. You need to read and watch both.MRWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13878920695841363553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-12301162027682154012016-09-25T22:39:32.215-04:002016-09-25T22:39:32.215-04:00Link?Link?Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-78749385216421076402016-09-25T22:23:52.227-04:002016-09-25T22:23:52.227-04:00@Tom,
Don't miss Lifton's interview on Se...@Tom,<br /><br />Don't miss Lifton's interview on Septemeber 16, 2016. Hope you added that to the post. He cites Dr. (Prof) Don Sadoway and his team of student/post-doc researchers from MIT and their recent accidental discovery (I mean <i>recent!</i>) when they "intended to create a new type of battery, but what they did instead was discover a new method of smelting certain metals without releasing any greenhouse gas emissions." This is absolutely revolutionary, but you can look it up if interested. Lifton's vid gives the significance.MRWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13878920695841363553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-21360419349074982612016-09-25T21:21:34.690-04:002016-09-25T21:21:34.690-04:00That is a race to the bottom, Tom :(
Some call it...<i>That is a race to the bottom, Tom :(</i><br /><br />Some call it "progress."Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-62503793380372625922016-09-25T21:03:57.967-04:002016-09-25T21:03:57.967-04:00That is a race to the bottom, Tom :(That is a race to the bottom, Tom :(Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-83783242888634107252016-09-25T19:17:57.347-04:002016-09-25T19:17:57.347-04:00Good article,MRW. I promoted it to a post.Thanks.Good article,MRW. I promoted it to a post.Thanks.Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-84922992532235335312016-09-25T19:09:30.850-04:002016-09-25T19:09:30.850-04:00Perhaps Iowans should question whether a CAFO is a...<i>Perhaps Iowans should question whether a CAFO is an agricultural or industrial operation. Probably futile to fight against it, but like any industry they should be forced to adhere to strict environmental standards.</i><br /><br />In the i980s agribusiness took over Iowa, driving out the small farm.. <br /><br />There is huge grassroots opposition to agribusiness especially wrt environmental issues and it is fairly organized. So far, it not making much of a dent.<br /><br />The big concern now is money. The argument is that if we don't do it here then someone else will there, and Iowa's economic growth will suffer.Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-80392797052806868962016-09-25T18:38:13.790-04:002016-09-25T18:38:13.790-04:00What I've learned here so far:
1. Renewable e...What I've learned here so far:<br /><br />1. Renewable energy is a fool's errand; useless for meeting energy demands on this planet.<br /><br />2. China has taken complete control of the world's rare-earth metal supply, a necessity for producing renewable energy. <br /><br />Sixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10756430577510633914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-88419021459968978562016-09-25T17:04:46.965-04:002016-09-25T17:04:46.965-04:00So your arguments are:
a) Renewable energy source...So your arguments are:<br /><br />a) Renewable energy sources cannot be scaled.<br />b) There are resource constraints for the manufacture of batteries and electric motors.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-68805526361453758662016-09-25T16:57:27.525-04:002016-09-25T16:57:27.525-04:00Suggest you watch Lifton about the constraints on ...Suggest you watch Lifton about the constraints on electric cars right now.<br />http://investorintel.com/technology-metals-intel/jack-lifton-recycling-nothing-not-option/MRWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13878920695841363553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-3607975288750474412016-09-25T16:38:43.711-04:002016-09-25T16:38:43.711-04:00@Tom,
I suggest that you elevate this article to ...@Tom,<br /><br />I suggest that you elevate this article to the level of a post here:<br /><i><b>China’s plan to secure critical rare earths and technology globally</b></i><br />http://investorintel.com/market-analysis-intel/resource-investment-globalization/<br /><br />It's written by Jack Lifton, who is recognized as one of--if not <i>thee</i>--top experts in the fundamental rare earth market globally. He's a plain-speaking no-nonsense man. He originally posted at Technology Metals Research, which he co-founded years ago.<br /><br />He has been absolutely prescient since I first encountered him in 2007 in his assessment of what China was doing capturing the rare earth market that drives renewables. He foresaw China's changes in stance. He sees into the future clearly, and I always take him seriously because he does gumshoe research: he visits every place he talks about, and analyzes hard data without preconceived ideas.<br /><br />When I worked for Bell Labs, I attended a conference with the top techy people at Apple, the hardware guys. I asked one of them about their upcoming innovations taking advantage of new chipsets, like the ones we were producing. The guy said Of course, I can't tell you that. (He did tell me about how US military Black Ops were using Apple laptops in a really innovative way that made them absolutely crackproof...stealth, you couldn't crack them, even if found by the enemy.) Then he said to me cryptically: Don't read software sites for info. Scour what's new in hardware tech. Even when they don't explicitly say it, you can find out what's coming down the pike years in advance. That's how you'll know, because you will understand the resources available to us and our constraints. He was right.<br /><br />I've applied this to renewables, and why I sought out Jack Lifton nine years ago.<br /><br />This article is interesting. Appears to me he might have been reading some Bill Black and Michael Hudson. Dunno'.MRWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13878920695841363553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-39597938446312735222016-09-25T16:16:03.842-04:002016-09-25T16:16:03.842-04:00A CAFO would not be approved where I live, even th...A CAFO would not be approved where I live, even though it is primarily an agricultural area. Mink farms have also been restricted.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-65609985513417258922016-09-25T16:07:12.947-04:002016-09-25T16:07:12.947-04:00Perhaps Iowans should question whether a CAFO is a...Perhaps Iowans should question whether a CAFO is an agricultural or industrial operation. Probably futile to fight against it, but like any industry they should be forced to adhere to strict environmental standards.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-43843979227357692202016-09-25T15:33:28.583-04:002016-09-25T15:33:28.583-04:00A lot of people have been trying to at least get a...A lot of people have been trying to at least get a leach on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_animal_feeding_operation" rel="nofollow"> CAFOs </a> with little to no success in agricultural states like Iowa. The lobby is too strong the legislature and state law trumps local ordinance. Courts are reluctant to recognize a nuisance factor in an agricultural environment. If you choose to live in such a state, you have to take what comes with it.<br /><br />Of course, larger population areas like where I live are not affected because higher land values preclude agriculture use too close to them. But towns are affected.Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.com