tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post854237369560775208..comments2024-03-28T07:50:06.102-04:00Comments on Mike Norman Economics: Richard Spencer — The Purpose And Meaning Of The Alt-Right Movementmike normanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03296006882513340747noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-52695491407664386302016-12-20T13:20:58.626-05:002016-12-20T13:20:58.626-05:00@Seve141
Typhus may be one of several 'proble...@Seve141<br /><br />Typhus may be one of several 'problems' requiring a final solution.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-85441995569157623012016-12-20T12:40:21.226-05:002016-12-20T12:40:21.226-05:00@Matt Franko (December 20, 2016 at 6:18 AM)
Thank...@Matt Franko (December 20, 2016 at 6:18 AM)<br /><br />Thanks.Magpiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07528637318288802178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-79630731138440812892016-12-20T10:03:37.724-05:002016-12-20T10:03:37.724-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ignaciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16082008115484199316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-17187310873849288582016-12-20T09:51:19.818-05:002016-12-20T09:51:19.818-05:00Maybe buy P&G (Gillette) on pullbacks as a pla...Maybe buy P&G (Gillette) on pullbacks as a play on the hair gel?<br /><br />Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-80778837933974585572016-12-20T09:36:57.785-05:002016-12-20T09:36:57.785-05:00" now they feel empowered because things have..." now they feel empowered because things have been 'stable-bad' (or worst case, 'getting worse') for an important cohort of the population."<br /><br />Well if we in the west keep going austerity like of late he is going to have to order A LOT more cans of hair gel!Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-17447425679765904132016-12-20T09:13:24.852-05:002016-12-20T09:13:24.852-05:00and then there are the USD zombies who dont even c...and then there are the USD zombies who dont even come here.... f-ed up...<br /><br />Migration animation here:<br /><br />https://blueshift.io/flow-map.html<br /><br />??????????????Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-87896347002645946672016-12-20T09:07:57.252-05:002016-12-20T09:07:57.252-05:00Well if you go back an look at that migration anim...Well if you go back an look at that migration animation I posted down thread you can see that something is going on...<br /><br />What is attracting all of these people? Has to be something...<br /><br />"conforming to language" language could be part of it... I look at Greek as a good scientific language... somebody I saw once described English as "a market language" so maybe English is optimum for commerce... commerce/production is going to attract the acquirers & laborers (R. Batra) among us so maybe you have all of these acquirers and laborers stuck in an area where the language is not good for commerce/production so they just leave and go to the geographic area where they can thrive as acquirers and laborers which is the English speaking areas..<br /><br />Wish I knew more about language...<br /><br />Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-28938191813804867622016-12-20T08:53:29.094-05:002016-12-20T08:53:29.094-05:00Conforming to cultural normative rules, language, ...Conforming to cultural normative rules, language, behavior? It's also reflexive: one culture can be more accommodative of immigration than other, and that forms part of their own national identity.<br /><br />But it changes with economic environment too, almost no one (certainly the majority) will complain about immigration if their personal situation is improving or stable-good (contrary to stable-bad). A very good recent example is Brexit: suburban Lodon vs. rest of the country, who was more adamant of open borders and immigration vs. who wasn't? Ie. USA may have been traditionally more pro-immigration but it changes if things turn bad for the natives (then the 'nationalist identity' turns inward).<br /><br />Alt-right would stay being a minority as long as things are 'good for the majority', now they feel empowered because things have been 'stable-bad' (or worst case, 'getting worse') for an important cohort of the population.<br /><br /><br />TL;DR: the tolerance towards immigrants depends both on the normative cultural rules but also on the economic conditions of the native population, and both are co-variant (although I would place the causality more on economic conditions driving tolerance).Ignaciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16082008115484199316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-68392964924925178122016-12-20T08:43:03.575-05:002016-12-20T08:43:03.575-05:00A nationalist identity isn't skin color, but w...A nationalist identity isn't skin color, but what is it?<br />The distinctive quality is maintained by political lines and borders which should be a clue. Ryan Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04815033054435303399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-17219245372889681122016-12-20T08:01:57.033-05:002016-12-20T08:01:57.033-05:00Gottcha, thanks!
Yeah is all deranged rationaliza...Gottcha, thanks!<br /><br />Yeah is all deranged rationalization>; ie. getting causality wrong. Is like protestant morality that drives you to gold-buggery and fallacy of composition.<br /><br />The claim does not even make sense materially, as 'white people' have expanded the most outside of their natural (???) borders. Sounds a bit hypocritical to say the least, although I understand the problem of identity and cultural collision, but basing it on the color of the skin is... deranged (ie. is not racial, is cultural, two very different things IMO).Ignaciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16082008115484199316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-84709351609513508772016-12-20T07:39:14.659-05:002016-12-20T07:39:14.659-05:00Well if you can get this thru rote from Paul here ...Well if you can get this thru rote from Paul here then perhaps you can see that Spencer is looking in the wrong place...<br /><br />Spencer imo is starting from a delineation of fleshly characteristics ie melanin content of the skin or some other human genetic delineation of "white" or "European" and then proceeding to develop a philosophy or political philosophy from that starting point...<br /><br />Paul also said (again via rote) "Beware that no one shall be despoiling you through philosophy and empty seduction, in accord with human tradition" Col 2:8<br /><br />So he is 1 starting with some type of fleshly delineation and 2 attempting to develop a human philosophy based on that starting point so he's really headed off the rails imo or at least going nowhere good...<br /><br />If you can just take in these rote lessons from Paul (dont add to it.. dont "reason"...) you can know that he wont really end up getting us (mankind) anywhere... at least from a non-material standpoint.... <br /><br />I suppose it could short term improve things materially but maybe not even that I am picking up some vestigial gold buggery about these alt-right people too...<br /><br />Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-19055608074088515272016-12-20T07:12:34.908-05:002016-12-20T07:12:34.908-05:00@Matt
"In the flesh there dwells no good thin...@Matt<br /><i>"In the flesh there dwells no good thing" Rom 7:18 (rote methodology)</i><br /><br />Can you elaborate on what that means in this context? I'm not a good rote learner sorry...Ignaciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16082008115484199316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-79960237994334898022016-12-20T06:18:20.286-05:002016-12-20T06:18:20.286-05:00Ethno supremcists want to rule or dominate over th...Ethno supremcists want to rule or dominate over the other ethnic groups... ethno nationalists do not...<br /><br />Although Spencer has said he does not like the term "white nationalist"...<br /><br />Ethno nationalists (alt right) position is "we don't need you and we don't want you" to the other ethnicities...<br /><br />10:30 here:<br /><br />https://youtu.be/27RXiA0qkrM<br /><br />"White people could have figured out another way to pick cotton...." etc...Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-87454416793020928242016-12-20T00:33:28.110-05:002016-12-20T00:33:28.110-05:00Being an ethno[graphic]-naitonalist doesn't im...<i>Being an ethno[graphic]-naitonalist doesn't imply being an ethno-supremacists.<br />Critics conflate them but they are different categories.</i><br /><br />I'm not trying to be the contrarian, nor am I claiming any expertise on the matter. I'm just a foreigner curious and interested.<br /><br />So, this is an honest question: beyond abstractions like what people may feel like an "unfair attack on a cultural position", what's the concrete, everyday, tangible difference between being an ethno[graphic]-nationalist and an ethno-supremacist?Magpiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07528637318288802178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-62608145930264817892016-12-19T23:42:53.742-05:002016-12-19T23:42:53.742-05:00Correction: ethnographic-supremacists should be et...Correction: ethnographic-supremacists should be ethno-supremacists.Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-1621098947709890572016-12-19T23:40:39.174-05:002016-12-19T23:40:39.174-05:00There's a big difference between ethno-naitonl...There's a big difference between ethno-naitonlists and ethnographic-supremacists. <br /><br />Being an ethno-naitonalist doesn't imply being an ethno-supremacists.<br /><br />Critics conflate them but they are different categories. <br /><br />There are a whole lo of ethnographic-nationalists and a lot fewer ethno-supremacists.<br /><br />Liberals tend to conflate these categories, and many ethno-nationalists feel that it is an unfair attack on a cultural position that many people espouse at least implicitly. <br /><br />Some ethno-nationalists held that it Is not contradictory to be both ethno-naitonalist and also liberal. They view those seeing a contraction as hyper-liberal globalists.<br /><br />This is an emerging political debate and I think we are going to be hearing a lot more about it in the near future.<br /><br />It's Steve Bannon's position as I understand him, and probably DJT's too, since he seems to have supported Bannon on it.Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-1605342983957258342016-12-19T19:54:59.870-05:002016-12-19T19:54:59.870-05:00"In the flesh there dwells no good thing"..."In the flesh there dwells no good thing" Rom 7:18 (rote methodology)Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-54424904334061802302016-12-19T19:28:02.863-05:002016-12-19T19:28:02.863-05:00Some want to build a white homeland, some want to ...Some want to build a white homeland, some want to build ovens.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-25470304333243125952016-12-19T19:04:06.708-05:002016-12-19T19:04:06.708-05:00"We are going to have alot of comming around ...<i>"We are going to have alot of comming around with similar movements in Russia and Europe or elsewhere."</i><br /><br />Now don't go accusing me of being too verbal, Tom. lolMRWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13878920695841363553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-91333100225123344772016-12-19T19:01:35.157-05:002016-12-19T19:01:35.157-05:00♪♫ He'll be comming [sic] around the mountain ...♪♫ He'll be <i>comming</i> [sic] around the mountain when he commes [sic]♪♫ Ta-Ta-Ta. ♪♫ He'll be comming [sic] around the mountain when he commes [sic]♪♫.MRWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13878920695841363553noreply@blogger.com