tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post948018625172478912..comments2024-03-28T04:13:36.779-04:00Comments on Mike Norman Economics: The Off-Guardian - What about the Auvergne? Is Russia engaging in strategic disinfo to avoid being drawn into trap?mike normanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03296006882513340747noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-60168103002219271602018-09-21T16:25:07.657-04:002018-09-21T16:25:07.657-04:00Thanks, GLH . Looks interesting.Thanks, GLH . Looks interesting.Kaiveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04195639305785321786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-48832716552107804612018-09-21T04:31:43.711-04:002018-09-21T04:31:43.711-04:00https://thesaker.is/some-fast-thoughts-on-il-20-an...https://thesaker.is/some-fast-thoughts-on-il-20-andrei-martyanov/ <br />https://thesaker.is/putin-israel-and-the-downed-il-20/<br />Maybe you guys should read these articles.GLHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02791463748430739099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-14854412382107686582018-09-20T18:27:52.569-04:002018-09-20T18:27:52.569-04:00Neither the US or Russia should even be there it i...Neither the US or Russia should even be there it is the outhouse of planet earth...Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-28974830058097216802018-09-20T18:22:57.755-04:002018-09-20T18:22:57.755-04:00“This is as ill-informed as Matt's comments”
...“This is as ill-informed as Matt's comments”<br /><br />Tom the key information is they shot down their own plane... completely unacceptable under any conditions...Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-54197222176158591272018-09-20T13:16:44.661-04:002018-09-20T13:16:44.661-04:00US politicians wouldn't know a real statesman ...US politicians wouldn't know a real statesman if they had 18 wheels and ran over them.<br /><br />Repeatedly.<br /><br />In a semi-related story I was traumatized by an overly aggressive delivery driver Trumpster who reminded me of Franko - loud, obnoxious, ill-informed, and supremely confident in their own unfounded beliefs. <br /><br />We are surely headed for civil war. Noah Wayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12012500819097539976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-36139733260968392352018-09-20T11:05:51.955-04:002018-09-20T11:05:51.955-04:00I think you're right, Tom, Putin is doing well...I think you're right, Tom, Putin is doing well despite the pressure. He's probably not a psychopath and is not prepared to risk the destruction of the planet. He can probably achieve everything he wants through other ways.<br /><br /> I have read how he totally outsmarted the Empire in Ukraine by not being drawn into their bait, but he got Crimea. And on the world stage he has outsmarted them with his links to China, getting around the sanctions. We just have to trust him.<br /><br />Some people hate the Empire, Israel, and the western ruling elite so much they would like to see someone stand up to them and give them a bloody nose and risk the !oss of billions of lives, but Putin can outsmart them and gain strength. I think Putin is acting with amazing courage to take all the pressure and criticism. <br /><br />I've watched loads of video on Putin and he always well mannered and polite, he is nothing like the big mouthed aggressive western leaders. Kaiveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04195639305785321786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-6842738001631014352018-09-20T10:49:06.719-04:002018-09-20T10:49:06.719-04:00“If people don't read the links before comment...<i> “If people don't read the links before commenting and showing their work, I will conclude that the links are an exercise in futility and stop putting them up. I have better things to do.”</i><br /><br />Likewise if people don’t read my comments before attacking then, then I will dismiss their attacks.<br /><br /><b>What I wrote </b>was that if the claim is <b>false,</b> then…<br /><br />And if the claim is <b>true,</b> then…<br /><br />In this I admitted that I don’t know if the claim is true or false. We only have early and sketchy reports. You didn’t catch that, because you didn’t read my comment before you attacked it. You did exactly what you accuse others of.<br /><br />Meanwhile I read many of the articles linked to in the post, but I not agree with you that readers must digest <b>every single link</b> in a long list of links before readers may comment on <b>any one </b>link. Please do not equate me with Franko, who spews his venom without reading <b><i>any</i></b> links at all.<br /><br />In fact, it seems <b>lazy </b> to simply list a series of links, and then condemn someone as “ill informed” for commenting on only one of the many separate links. Why not do what most other bloggers do, which is write a digest with the links embedded in your commentary?<br /><br />The crux of the matter is that you are a Putin apologist, whereas I question Putin’s apparent docility. Putin aids the Syrian government, but allows Israel to repeatedly attack Syria at will. I say that this is shameful. You say that this makes me “ill informed.” <br /><br />So be it.Konradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01739209449391854796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-57193885906058118022018-09-20T09:57:33.488-04:002018-09-20T09:57:33.488-04:00BTW, we don't know yet what happened behind th...BTW, we don't know yet what happened behind the scenes. All we have so far is initial public reports and speculation of people familiar with the situation but not privy to intel or what is going on inside.<br /><br />So jumping to conclusions is premature, especially in a situation that is highly nuanced.<br /><br />Also if people don't read the links before commenting and showing their work, I will conclude that the links are an exercise in futility and stop putting them up. I have better things to do.Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-1915555656277603002018-09-20T09:50:36.415-04:002018-09-20T09:50:36.415-04:00Did you read the all the relevant links, Konrad? T...Did you read the all the relevant links, Konrad? This is as ill-informed as Matt's comments.<br /><br />Bibi called Putin immediately and sent an Israeli military delegation to Moscow to explain their side.<br /><br />Neither Russia or Israel want war with each other.Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-23705866637224875212018-09-20T09:16:40.009-04:002018-09-20T09:16:40.009-04:00.
Franko is not only a moron; he's a P.O.S. ra....<br />Franko is not only a moron; he's a P.O.S. racist. <br /><br />+++++++++++++++++<br /><br />The claim is that on 18 Sep 2018 an Ilyushin Il-20M Coot-A ELINT plane was destroyed off the Syrian cost, along with 15 Russian personnel aboard. <br /><br />If that claim is <b> false, </b> and no plane was destroyed, then perhaps the article above has a point. <br /><br />If the claim is <b> true, </b> then the article above smells like another lame attempt to gloss over Russian weakness. Four Israeli F-16s were striking targets in the Lattakia region at the time. The consensus is that Syrian S-200 surface to air missiles accidentally hit the Il-20M surveillance plane instead of any of the attacking Israeli F-16s (and possible escorting aircraft). <b>Therefore Israeli attacks caused the incident.</b> Therefore Putin is unable or unwilling to stop Israel from attacking Syria at will, and from killing Russian personnel. Therefore Putin is a wimp for dismissing those fifteen deaths as merely “regrettable.” <br /><br />If the missiles instead came from the French missile frigate Auvergne off the Syrian coast, then Putin remains a wimp. Fifteen Russians killed? Who cares? Certainly not Putin. <br /><br />“Regrettable.”<br /><br />In the past, Israel has used a “deconfliction” hotline to alert Russia of impending strikes on Syria. Putin has allowed these strikes, since they came from his beloved Israelis. Therefore the Israelis evidently decided that they no longer need to alert Putin whenever they attack Syria.<br /><br />I say that Russia should leave Syria, or else fully defend Syria from all attacks, including Israeli attacks. <br /><br />The article above says, <i>“Anyone who thinks Russia should have responded by shooting other planes out of the sky needs to pause and reflect.”</i><br /><br />Right. When Israeli planes cause the deaths of Russian personnel, the Russians need to “pause and reflect” instead of defending themselves.Konradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01739209449391854796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-76686392485055416302018-09-20T07:25:05.404-04:002018-09-20T07:25:05.404-04:00OMG.... They have a bunch of Arabs running their S...OMG.... They have a bunch of Arabs running their Sam sites and ofc just shot down one of their own aircraft.... let’s not over think this...,Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.com