tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post1017319344655464824..comments2024-03-29T02:19:19.866-04:00Comments on Mike Norman Economics: The approach of the World Socialist Web Site to science — Bryan Dynemike normanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03296006882513340747noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-66222695224384779772021-01-18T09:06:07.736-05:002021-01-18T09:06:07.736-05:00This is an excellent place to start:
https://www....This is an excellent place to start:<br /><br />https://www.amazon.ca/Homeric-Greek-Beginners-Clyde-Pharr/dp/0806141646lastgreekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00354740659933239445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-51817574587540459702021-01-18T09:02:55.675-05:002021-01-18T09:02:55.675-05:00δια preposition meaning "through" "...δια preposition meaning "through" "across"<br /><br />βάλλω the verb "to throw/cast/put/place"<br /><br />lastgreekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00354740659933239445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-35493539432920470152021-01-18T08:53:36.603-05:002021-01-18T08:53:36.603-05:00"Slanderer"
The verb διαβάλλω: I slande... "Slanderer"<br /><br />The verb διαβάλλω: I slander, defame<br /><br />The noun διαβολή: slander, defamation <br />,<br />The adjective διαβολικός: diabolical, fiendish lastgreekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00354740659933239445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-85595115671499838132021-01-17T20:27:27.788-05:002021-01-17T20:27:27.788-05:00Deviled ham?Deviled ham?Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-24937213272617881952021-01-17T20:27:01.488-05:002021-01-17T20:27:01.488-05:00“ GOD of Abraham, GOD of Isaac, GOD of Jacob
not o...“ GOD of Abraham, GOD of Isaac, GOD of Jacob<br />not of the philosophers and of the learned.”<br /><br />Yeah no kidding....<br /><br />Took another 200 years till those people gave the world Charles Darwin telling them their grandparents were chimpanzees till they finally shit canned the whole lot...Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-38878671959418107412021-01-17T20:17:11.674-05:002021-01-17T20:17:11.674-05:00iow does it have a literal usage?iow does it have a literal usage?Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-70200397106688799952021-01-17T20:16:26.003-05:002021-01-17T20:16:26.003-05:00But Is it ever used as a plain personal pronoun? ...But Is it ever used as a plain personal pronoun? designating a type of person? ... iow in English it would not be capitalized...<br /><br />Not the proper noun “Devil” or “Satan” in the figurative form of that literal translation of the biblical personification used in the Hebrew .... that is a well known translation...<br /><br />Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-36562077727969779972021-01-17T19:47:08.098-05:002021-01-17T19:47:08.098-05:00“Greek what does ‘diabolos’ mean?“
The devil.
“Greek what does ‘diabolos’ mean?“<br /><br />The devil. <br /><br />lastgreekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00354740659933239445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-83978861198539709452021-01-17T19:04:55.640-05:002021-01-17T19:04:55.640-05:00Paul described it as “revelation” in English trans...Paul described it as “revelation” in English translation .. the word is ‘apokalupseos’ or from-covering in the original language...<br /><br />imo implies the knowledge is always there but it is somehow covered.... <br /><br />Galatians 1:12 King James<br /><br />“For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but by the revelation”<br /><br />Received is parelabon. beside-got (I read imitation method)<br />Taught is edidachthEn. (i read didactic method)<br />Revelation is apokalupseOs (from-covering)<br /><br />So he ruled out imitation method and the didactic method.... said it was a ‘from-covering’<br /><br />imo it’s covered... something is covering it...Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-83647258305229911242021-01-17T15:10:12.070-05:002021-01-17T15:10:12.070-05:00Blaise Pascal was a great mathematician. He was al...Blaise Pascal was a great mathematician. He was also a mystic.<br /><br /><i>It was November 23rd, 1654 and Blaise Pascal was at home alone. The sun was set and all was dark. He was most likely preparing for bed when, suddenly, at around 10:30pm, something supernatural happened. It’s not clear exactly what he saw, but the amazing mystical experience lasted for a full two hours. As soon as it was over, he grabbed a pen and paper and wrote down what was swirling through his head.<br />Here’s what he wrote:<br /><br />The year of grace 1654,<br /><br />Monday, 23 November, feast of St. Clement, pope and martyr, and others in the martyrology. Vigil of St. Chrysogonus, martyr, and others. From about half past ten at night until about half past midnight,<br /><br />FIRE.<br /><br />GOD of Abraham, GOD of Isaac, GOD of Jacob<br />not of the philosophers and of the learned.<br />Certitude. Certitude. Feeling. Joy. Peace.<br />GOD of Jesus Christ.<br />My God and your God.<br />Your GOD will be my God.<br />Forgetfulness of the world and of everything, except GOD.<br />He is only found by the ways taught in the Gospel.<br />Grandeur of the human soul.<br />Righteous Father, the world has not known you, but I have known you.<br />Joy, joy, joy, tears of joy.<br />I have departed from him:<br />They have forsaken me, the fount of living water.<br />My God, will you leave me?<br />Let me not be separated from him forever.<br />This is eternal life, that they know you, the one true God, and the one that you sent, Jesus Christ.<br />Jesus Christ.<br />Jesus Christ.<br />I left him; I fled him, renounced, crucified.<br />Let me never be separated from him.<br />He is only kept securely by the ways taught in the Gospel:<br />Renunciation, total and sweet.<br />Complete submission to Jesus Christ and to my director.<br />Eternally in joy for a day’s exercise on the earth.<br />May I not forget your words. Amen.<br /><br />Wow! Whatever he saw, it sounds amazing.<br /><br />He then took the piece of paper with the story and carefully sewed it into the inside of his jacket, which he kept with him the rest of his life. This was not discovered until after his death.</i>Ahmed Fareshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07105255828394485657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-46998566236140353672021-01-17T14:56:35.625-05:002021-01-17T14:56:35.625-05:00continuation
But few who have experienced somethi...continuation<br /><br />But few who have experienced something of this order doubt it. For example, most who practice Oriental martial arts have experienced "chi," "qi" or "ki" as the vital force, even though it cannot be measured. Based on this, they invest valuable time and energy on developing it and acquiring knowledge about it. Many people in the West now meditate and some report non-ordinary experience.<br /><br />And there are actually different orders of experience and knowledge as the confluence of experience and understanding, with experience and knowledge of the gross physical being the lowest and more commonly experienced. Experience and knowledge of the gross is horizontal, on the gross level only. <br /><br />There are many levels. Experience and knowledge are also vertical — gross, subtle, mental or causal, and transcendent. This is all documented in the wisdom traditions and now scientists are trying to figure out now to deal with it operationally. So far this pretty much involves correlating psychological reports with physiological measurement of things like neurological patterns, biochemistry, and other measurables. Of course, hard nose scientists have no interest in this and regard it as superstitious. But a whole lot of people have had experiences that qualify as "mystical" in the sense of non-ordinary and unexplainable by conventional methods. <br /><br />Wisdom traditions have no problem with explaining such things in terms of their epistemological paradigms. In the West normative institutional religions — Judaism, Christianity, and Islam — have tended to downplay or even suppress this. so it is not widely known and until recently literature was not very available either. The mystical schools of Qabalah and Sufism are well-developed however, but these have been closet teachings. In Western Christianity, that is, that is, Roman Catholicism and Protestantism, the opposition has been even greater, although it is more welcome in Eastern Orthodoxy.<br /><br />This is significant since science is largely a Western phenomenon, so the West has been largely in the dark about transcendental wisdom other than peripherally, e.g, through Western occultism, which has been an underground phenomenon, or by reading the Christian mystics.<br /><br />But once one starts looking it is everywhere. No the question is separating the genuine from the bogus. Some of the bogus is charlatanism and some simply self-delusion or mistaking some experience for what it is not.<br /><br />endTom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-29541565033560533432021-01-17T14:56:21.052-05:002021-01-17T14:56:21.052-05:00Via what methodology?
Conventional knowledge can&...<i>Via what methodology?</i><br /><br />Conventional knowledge can't explain it and ordinary language cannot describe it either. This dimension is considered supernatural because it cannot be quantified and operationalized. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. <br /><br />Sages transmit knowledge by the same power that Saul of Tarsus was snatched up to the third heaven and transformed into Paul. Or, how Buddha's disciple Mahakasyapa was immediately enlightened when Buddha held up a flower. Did the flower have anything to do with it? No. However, "transmission of knowledge" doesn't mean intellectual knowledge. It means experiential knowledge, e.g., intense love. Wisdom traditions have conceptual models for understanding this experience in terms of a holistic system.<br /><br />Wisdom traditions purport to be based on peoples' experience — masters and mystics, saints and sages, and prophets, for example. They underlie all civilizations at the foundational level.<br /><br />There are many such reports recorded, and many more that go unrecorded, and one either accepts at least some of them as credible or one rejects the whole notion of transcendental wisdom, as many do, some on the basis of scientific naturalism.<br /><br />It's a choice. There is no logically compelling argument on either side. Usually it requires openness but some just have a spontaneous experience, out of the blue so to speak, like Paul did. Some like Paul, either rejected or doubted, previous to the experience.<br /><br />Science ends where its assumptions lead. Naturalism is a methodological assumption. It works well in explanation of that which can be operationalized, but it doesn't imply that what cannot be operationalized yet or in principle does not exist and can't be experienced. Science cannot yet operationalize mind or consciousness, for example, so some scientists claim that neither exists. Most people's reaction to that is, WTF?<br /><br />continuedTom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-25279825177991796332021-01-17T13:51:11.513-05:002021-01-17T13:51:11.513-05:00“Sages can transmit that knowledge directly,”
Via...“Sages can transmit that knowledge directly,”<br /><br />Via what methodology? and don’t say the figurative because that is not direct....Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-26335385459223406892021-01-17T13:47:54.585-05:002021-01-17T13:47:54.585-05:00“These are teaching stories.“
Yes but there are o...“These are teaching stories.“<br /><br />Yes but there are other ways to teach besides hearing or reading the figurative... there is ofc the literal .... and then there is the technical abstractions which you can train in... etc...<br /><br />Abstraction has been much more successful... in material matters anyway... Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-58333474886739067882021-01-17T11:03:43.007-05:002021-01-17T11:03:43.007-05:00These are teaching stories. For example, exactly w...These are teaching stories. For example, exactly what Al-Shayah Al-Akbar actually intended from his level is impossible for ordinary consciousness to grasp at the level of the gross physical. The sages dumb it down to our level. It's kind of like trying to explain something like QM to those who are mathematically innumerate, or sex to five year old. That's why little kids used get the stork story and now may get, daddy put you inside mommy. Of course, the little kid thinks, WTF for?<br /><br />Teaching stories are knowledge systems that encapsulate profound wisdom and are designed to unfold that wisdom as one works with it and grows in "wisdom and understanding" on the way to realizing knowledge (gnosis). Sort of like how a child learns math and then after many years of study learns how to apply it to a field. <br /><br />Teaching stories are not all stories in the sense of prose or poetry. Many are also graphic symbols like the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taijitu" rel="nofollow">Taijitu</a> of Taoism, which contains the whole teaching. The I Ching unpacks it somewhat. This is also expressed symbolically in the Tree of Life<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life#Kabbalah" rel="nofollow"></a> of Qabalah, for example, which is a graphically represented teaching story, comparable to such devices in Hinduism, Buddhism and Taoism. The Tree of Knowledge<a href="https://yogainternational.com/article/view/the-yogic-tree-of-life" rel="nofollow"></a> in Hinduism is upside down with its roots in the heavens. (This also occurs in Norse myth.)<br /><br />Sages can transmit that knowledge directly, and sometimes do, although rarely, or else explain it in detail but that generally only happens "in the closet," that is, privately as an oral teaching, so this is also rare. The rest get to read, hear or see the representation of the stories and that's what they have to work with at the stage they are at. This is how wisdom unfolds — from here to there (realization) through gradual unfolding.<br /><br />There are two forms of reproduction, individual reproduction through sex that transmits generic material across generations, and social reproduction through knowledge that transmits knowledge across generations culturally and institutionally. Some cultures recognize this through ancestor worship and veneration of wisdom traditions.<br /><br />The first are genetic strains that result in ethnicity. The second are the various traditions underlying cultures and civilizations. Ultimate knowledge is one so the inner teaching of the sages is the same across time and space. However, the sages have to communicate in term of time and place, which accounts for the superficial differences.<br />Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-54706607264734380432021-01-17T08:49:22.959-05:002021-01-17T08:49:22.959-05:00“the idea of the constant re-creation of the world...“the idea of the constant re-creation of the world in order to keep the moments of the cosmic history discrete”<br /><br />That’s another reification error ... the guy is believing the real conforms to the mathematical abstraction...<br /><br />https://brilliant.org/wiki/discrete-mathematics/<br /><br />The guy thinks the abstractions are real... this is the same as the morons going all around saying “lending out the reserves!” or “lending out the deposits!”... “borrowing from China!”... <br />Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-18238302296192621652021-01-17T08:34:30.873-05:002021-01-17T08:34:30.873-05:00Tom, it’s pretty difficult for “workers of the wor...Tom, it’s pretty difficult for “workers of the world, unite!” when the government won’t let workers go to work....<br /><br />I think this guy may be starting to realize this...Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-28150689035142400582021-01-17T08:27:28.162-05:002021-01-17T08:27:28.162-05:00I don’t have any problem understanding it... this ...I don’t have any problem understanding it... this is all happening on a Saturday in figurative terms... I don’t think this conflicts with the Genesis account...Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-49861128244899802552021-01-16T22:28:39.153-05:002021-01-16T22:28:39.153-05:00re: every day is Saturday
Further to my comment a...re: every day is Saturday<br /><br />Further to my comment and in the interest of clarity, a quote:<br /><br /><i>Space-time and creation in six days<br /><br />So this means that we - along with all of manifest creation, at all times - are now living in this ‘Seventh Day’, but the riddle is how we can at the same time still be viewing the other Days of the week, including Saturday itself. Ibn ‘Arabi himself remarks that ‘it is rather amazing that the Days, among which is Saturday, are (all) happening in Saturday; because it is one of these Days and they are appearing in it’ [II. 444. 7]</i><br /><br />source: Ibn Arabi - Time and CosmologyAhmed Fareshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07105255828394485657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-2003335186357451202021-01-16T21:00:22.852-05:002021-01-16T21:00:22.852-05:00"Tell that to the people who hold that creati..."Tell that to the people who hold that creation took place in literally six days..." = “ "Tell that to the people who hold that reserve balances are literally lent out”<br /><br />It’s the same cognitive error of reification...<br /><br />All this BS about “money!” is probably a tip off towards these more profound matters,,,, which then it pisses me off that all these moron MMT people want to simply politicize all of this “money!” shit... <br /><br />“Trillion dollar coin!” .... go F yourself there is already almost twice that in the Treasury account morons...Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-81504272031716371902021-01-16T20:45:56.558-05:002021-01-16T20:45:56.558-05:00“and bearing in mind that a "day" in Sem...“and bearing in mind that a "day" in Semitic languages can be any length of time, the days of creation begin on Sunday and appear on Saturday,”<br /><br />Interesting... probably what the scripture means then is that it took ‘God” one interval between rest days to do it,,,<br /><br />Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-600814835306212852021-01-16T20:41:39.207-05:002021-01-16T20:41:39.207-05:00‘dia’ is through,,,‘dia’ is through,,,Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-88009821019652340612021-01-16T20:36:49.702-05:002021-01-16T20:36:49.702-05:00Greek what does ‘diabolos’ mean?
Greek what does ‘diabolos’ mean?<br /><br />Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-90039293476165282682021-01-16T20:33:26.842-05:002021-01-16T20:33:26.842-05:00“You do know how to search the Internet, don't...“You do know how to search the Internet, don't you.”<br /><br />My point is I didn’t have to know what any of that is to get a Science degree... <br /><br />All the people who are doing all of this stuff don’t even know what any of that is,,,, yet we went to the moon...Matt Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11978352335097260145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-60721788924835028402021-01-16T19:11:17.438-05:002021-01-16T19:11:17.438-05:00“Meta is a Greek term meaning "after," c...“Meta is a Greek term meaning "after," comparable to Latin "post."” <br /><br />Meta (μετά) is a preposition. In the accusative case it means “after”; in the genitive case, it means “with” :)<br /><br /><br />lastgreekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00354740659933239445noreply@blogger.com