tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post3908558084895495394..comments2024-03-28T04:13:36.779-04:00Comments on Mike Norman Economics: The Global Industrial Working Class — Alejandro Reuss interviews Immanuel Nessmike normanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03296006882513340747noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-82767890852283959872017-03-21T21:11:11.876-04:002017-03-21T21:11:11.876-04:00When the goal is building a secure and equitable f...<i>When the goal is building a secure and equitable future, contingency planning would come in handy. Ironic that we only do it in anticipation of conflict.</i><br /><br />I would call it "possibility planning" other wise known as achieving an ideal society. Ideal society is utopia, so to avoid utopian thinking, there must be planning for getting from here to there iteratively and incrementally. There are a variety of ways of conceptualizing ideal society and many paths (means) for achieving this as a goal. However, owing to the fact that society is a complex adaptive system subject to reflexivity and emergence ideal society more a horizon than a fixed goal.<br /><br />If we put the resources behind that that we do military planning, we might get somewhere instead of muddling along while assuming spontaneous natural order. Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-71868328862371174392017-03-21T20:55:32.850-04:002017-03-21T20:55:32.850-04:00When the goal is global hegemony, then the conting...<i>When the goal is global hegemony, then the contingency planning has to take into account all contingencies, including conflict on all fronts simultaneously.</i><br /><br />When the goal is building a secure and equitable future, contingency planning would come in handy. Ironic that we only do it in anticipation of conflict.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-4638077373513702752017-03-21T20:52:41.898-04:002017-03-21T20:52:41.898-04:00Isn't it unethical to prevent people fleeing f...Isn't it unethical to prevent people fleeing from climate induced disasters?<br />If Bangladeshis had to be resettled it would be the responsibility of the world community to accommodate them. It is a brutal world we are building and preparing for...Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-61656301222186673332017-03-21T14:11:05.621-04:002017-03-21T14:11:05.621-04:00Bob said...
If there is a virtue to military prep...Bob said...<br /><br /><i>If there is a virtue to military preparedness, it is that they are willing to put money into contingency planning.</i><br /><br />Very true. Besides, that's the kind of government spending popular among our masters.<br /><br />In the PBS doco there's a bit where they announce that apparently India built a fence around Bangladesh. It's a scary-looking fence and I imagine they had several reasons to build it.<br /><br />Still, one could say that's a form of military preparadness against climate change.<br /><br />The thing is, if sea levels rise one metre, Bangladesh could lose 20% of its land area. Imagine those millions of people attempting to find a new home across the border.<br /><br />I imagine rivers of blood could flow, but I don't think a fence, however scary and deadly, could stop all of them.Magpiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07528637318288802178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-19631616351575223632017-03-21T11:32:09.731-04:002017-03-21T11:32:09.731-04:00If there is a virtue to military preparedness, it ...<i>If there is a virtue to military preparedness, it is that they are willing to put money into contingency planning.</i><br /><br />When the goal is global hegemony, then the contingency planning has to take into account all contingencies, including conflict on all fronts simultaneously. The level of equipage, forward deployment, rapid response and training level is enormous. The US used to be prepared for a two front war, which still humongous. But now it is a multi-front war plus guerrilla actions worldwide.<br /><br />Some military strategist are saying the the US is biting off more than it can chew and is in a situation involving overreach. Others are saying that the US military is simply overextended, which is an issue that more funding for expansion can address. <br /><br />Trump's view on this is unclear. He takes a realist, defensive position on one hand, and other the other seems to want a military capability that can meet all contingencies.<br /><br />With other countries acquiring comparable technology, this is heading in an ominous direction, with the being forced to commit more and more resources to maintain dominance, which is the existing policy.Tom Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454222098667643650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-922815378340284022017-03-21T10:27:36.841-04:002017-03-21T10:27:36.841-04:00If there is a virtue to military preparedness, it ...If there is a virtue to military preparedness, it is that they are willing to put money into contingency planning.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-66436010664991901212017-03-21T09:54:11.848-04:002017-03-21T09:54:11.848-04:00Hi Magpie,
I can't watch the video as I'm ...Hi Magpie,<br />I can't watch the video as I'm not in Australia. There's a transcript but it's just the intro.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-80655429606497564092017-03-20T23:07:48.376-04:002017-03-20T23:07:48.376-04:00Bob said...
My prediction is that 'economism&...Bob said...<br /><br /><i>My prediction is that 'economism' will be overshadowed by environmental and geo-political instability. The plight of workers is not a standalone issue.</i><br /><br />I think there may be something to that. Did you watch 4 Corners last night?<br /><br />The Age of Consequences<br />By PBS International, Jared P Scott<br />http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2017/03/20/4637278.htm<br /><br />By the way, read the interview. It's a good antidote against the "post-industrial" nonsense that even smart people like Paul Mason have fallen for.Magpiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07528637318288802178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2761684730989137546.post-24517229240510156952017-03-20T12:32:44.070-04:002017-03-20T12:32:44.070-04:00Africa is the last place for exploiters to move th...Africa is the last place for exploiters to move their production to. But that would be a continuation of the status quo. Capitalism is unsustainable in more ways than one. The availability of cheap labour isn't the most urgent problem facing business as usual.<br /><br />My prediction is that 'economism' will be overshadowed by environmental and geo-political instability. The plight of workers is not a standalone issue.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.com