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Sunday, August 27, 2017
Jack Peat — Trump pardons Arpaio: This is his human rights record
American soft power takes another hit, coming soon after the torchlight march in Charlottesville reminiscent of the rise of the Nazis in Germany in the lead up to WWII.
Arpaio is typical american law enforcement. Law enforcement always involves arbitrary violence, more than anyone will admit, physical brutality, coercion, intimidation and threat and actual violence. It's only shocking if you believed the we-are-special city on hill nonsense. Our country has been a plutocracy forever. Our judicial system serves the person who can afford good attorneys. The midwest and east coast have always been run by corrupt officials with their hands out who were only too keen to use violence against anyone who stood in their way. The west and south are run by ideologues who take prosecutorial discretion to extremes and create horrific problems.
I'm sorry if I have no sympathy for his human rights record. You'd have to blind and lying to yourself if you think this is any different than Chicago, LA or anywhere else. The problem for Arpaio is that he offended Democratic politicians. When the Daly's do far worse in Chicago, Democrats are titillated by the violence.
All too true, Ryan. Araio's offense and that of Trump, too, is that they are being up front about it. Many are OK with this as long as they don't see it. Like "good Germans" that never asked where missing Jews were being sent "on vacation."
I hear what your saying Ryan, and I agree. Willful ignorance about a corrupt and racist system is no excuse for fake outrage. But let's look at this from another angle, one that is I think a hit more problematic for the country as a whole.
Trump never surrenders. Anyone who has studied him, and unfortunately I have been doing a lot of this lately, will notice that Trump has jumped out of more coffins than Bela Lugosi. He is a survivor, and he will not simply resign from office, which many people think is going to happen. I could be wrong, but I don't think that will ever happen.
So the Arpaio pardon is strategy, as is the removal of Bannon and Gorka. Gorka said, Steve Bannon will be more powerful now that he is back in charge of Breitbart. More powerful than in the White House? Why did he say this?
Because it's war time. Trump knows the forces of the establishment are sick of his act. People are openly questioning his sanity. Approval ratings are ridiculously low. Republicans are surely making plans for a Pence reelection bid in 2020.
Trump will never let that happen. So he will use whatever powers he has as president for self preservation, and to destroy his enemies.
He will declare war on every group that is marginalized, and embolden the worst elements of the so called alt right to action.
He will loosen whatever small restraints existed on the police to crack skulls and harass the marginalized.
And he will directly cause constitutional crises by pardoning anyone who does hie bidding directly.
He might even start a nuclear war just for the heck of it.
Trump probably has a plan for 2018 midterms as his fallback position... he can primary a bunch of the intransigents and get a Congress he can work with.... his person is in at the RNC now as Priebus is out...
Also, don't think he wouldn't change party affiliations in a minute either... if he thought it was in his best interests...
Right, Dave. Trump has been outmaneuvered by the establishment/deep state and he is now one foot in the grave. His best hope is to threaten civil war if he is removed from power and he needs to whip up the crazies to make the threat credible.
Oh, you think this is exaggeration coming from the loony left?
Here is Trump's front man actually making the threat explicit.
Roger Stone, a longtime confidant to President Donald Trump, predicted Thursday there would be a "spasm of violence" tantamount to civil war if the president were brought under impeachment charges by Congress.
I'm on Trump's side, Dave. I despised GWB, I hated Obama, they were the two worst leaders I could imagine on every policy that mattered. The people themselves we so awful, disgusting despicable humans, I couldn't bring myself to listen to their speeches or even their twitter. Their policies were inane and stupid self serving tripe.
If the left/deep state/whoever tries to impeach Trump because they don't like his personality and policies, don't like democracy when the other side wins, and they move on silly ginned up charges, nothing is off the table. Once the constitution no longer works and civil behavior only applies when coastal elite and academics get their way. Well, that is fairly simple, the rules of the game are whatever we say they are... if we're going to have thinly disguised authoritarian rules anyway, lets make Trump a dictator. At least he does what I want instead of what they want.
Arpaio is typical american law enforcement. Law enforcement always involves arbitrary violence, more than anyone will admit, physical brutality, coercion, intimidation and threat and actual violence.
ReplyDeleteIt's only shocking if you believed the we-are-special city on hill nonsense. Our country has been a plutocracy forever. Our judicial system serves the person who can afford good attorneys. The midwest and east coast have always been run by corrupt officials with their hands out who were only too keen to use violence against anyone who stood in their way. The west and south are run by ideologues who take prosecutorial discretion to extremes and create horrific problems.
I'm sorry if I have no sympathy for his human rights record. You'd have to blind and lying to yourself if you think this is any different than Chicago, LA or anywhere else. The problem for Arpaio is that he offended Democratic politicians. When the Daly's do far worse in Chicago, Democrats are titillated by the violence.
All too true, Ryan. Araio's offense and that of Trump, too, is that they are being up front about it. Many are OK with this as long as they don't see it. Like "good Germans" that never asked where missing Jews were being sent "on vacation."
ReplyDeleteHow is this any different than Obama pardoning Manning?
ReplyDeleteThat was just a political pander to the LGBT people...
...reminiscent of the rise of the Nazis in Germany in the lead up to WWII. Tom Franko
ReplyDeleteAlso caused by an unethical fiat and credit creation system.
He who oppresses the poor to make more for himself or who gives to the rich, will only come to poverty.Proverbs 22:16
Our fiat and credit creation system DOES BOTH.
Pardon me, Tom. I meant to say Tom Hicks, not Tom Franko.
ReplyDeleteI could quote a Proverb to myself for that slip-up. :(
"could quote a Proverb"
ReplyDeleteSave it...
I hear what your saying Ryan, and I agree. Willful ignorance about a corrupt and racist system is no excuse for fake outrage. But let's look at this from another angle, one that is I think a hit more problematic for the country as a whole.
ReplyDeleteTrump never surrenders. Anyone who has studied him, and unfortunately I have been doing a lot of this lately, will notice that Trump has jumped out of more coffins than Bela Lugosi. He is a survivor, and he will not simply resign from office, which many people think is going to happen. I could be wrong, but I don't think that will ever happen.
So the Arpaio pardon is strategy, as is the removal of Bannon and Gorka. Gorka said, Steve Bannon will be more powerful now that he is back in charge of Breitbart. More powerful than in the White House? Why did he say this?
Because it's war time. Trump knows the forces of the establishment are sick of his act. People are openly questioning his sanity. Approval ratings are ridiculously low. Republicans are surely making plans for a Pence reelection bid in 2020.
Trump will never let that happen. So he will use whatever powers he has as president for self preservation, and to destroy his enemies.
He will declare war on every group that is marginalized, and embolden the worst elements of the so called alt right to action.
He will loosen whatever small restraints existed on the police to crack skulls and harass the marginalized.
And he will directly cause constitutional crises by pardoning anyone who does hie bidding directly.
He might even start a nuclear war just for the heck of it.
But he will never surrender.
Great job America. Lol
Trump probably has a plan for 2018 midterms as his fallback position... he can primary a bunch of the intransigents and get a Congress he can work with.... his person is in at the RNC now as Priebus is out...
ReplyDeleteAlso, don't think he wouldn't change party affiliations in a minute either... if he thought it was in his best interests...
Right, Dave. Trump has been outmaneuvered by the establishment/deep state and he is now one foot in the grave. His best hope is to threaten civil war if he is removed from power and he needs to whip up the crazies to make the threat credible.
ReplyDeleteOh, you think this is exaggeration coming from the loony left?
Here is Trump's front man actually making the threat explicit.
Roger Stone, a longtime confidant to President Donald Trump, predicted Thursday there would be a "spasm of violence" tantamount to civil war if the president were brought under impeachment charges by Congress.
Politico
Roger Stone predicts violent 'insurrection' if Trump is impeached
Cristiano Lima
What is the reminiscent of?
I'm on Trump's side, Dave. I despised GWB, I hated Obama, they were the two worst leaders I could imagine on every policy that mattered. The people themselves we so awful, disgusting despicable humans, I couldn't bring myself to listen to their speeches or even their twitter. Their policies were inane and stupid self serving tripe.
ReplyDeleteIf the left/deep state/whoever tries to impeach Trump because they don't like his personality and policies, don't like democracy when the other side wins, and they move on silly ginned up charges, nothing is off the table. Once the constitution no longer works and civil behavior only applies when coastal elite and academics get their way. Well, that is fairly simple, the rules of the game are whatever we say they are... if we're going to have thinly disguised authoritarian rules anyway, lets make Trump a dictator. At least he does what I want instead of what they want.