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Sunday, March 6, 2022

Neo-Nazism and Ukraine

On Twitter some people are questioning the claim that neo-Nazi nationalist extermist terrorists in Ukraine are even there, let alone making a difference. For the record, here are a few postings from Twitter in response. They range from their violent participation in the Maidan putsch in 2014 to their activity at present, where they are a major fighting force in Donbass and southeastern Ukraine now.

Some argue that while these may be far-right extremists and even terrorists, they should not be labelled Nazi or neo-Nazi. There are two argument against this. The first is prominent display of Nazi imagery including the worldangel as their insignia. This is modeled on the insignia used by SS divisions.
The Wolfsangel was an initial symbol of the Nazi Party. In World War II the sign and its elements were used by various German SS armoured and infantry divisions such as the Waffen-SS Division Das Reich and the Waffen-SS Division Landstorm Nederland.
Wolfsangel - Wikipedia

Another connection is their rhetoric, which closely resembles Nazi rhetoric when it does not repeat it.


https://www.newsweek.com/evidence-war-crimes-committed-ukrainian-nationalist-volunteers-grows-269604


You know there’s a problem when the NATO mouthpiece acknowledges that Ukraine is overrun by Nazis…
The Atlantic Council June 20, 2018
Ukraine’s Got a Real Problem with Far-Right Violence (And No, RT Didn’t Write This Headline)
Josh Cohen
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-s-got-a-real-problem-with-far-right-violence-and-no-rt-didn-t-write-this-headline/


CTC Sentinel
Vol. 13 Nbr. 4, April 2020
The Nexus Between Far-Right Extremists in the United States and Ukraine.
Tim Lister
https://law-journals-books.vlex.com/vid/the-nexus-between-far-844614201
Posted at Twitter
Replying to
This is from the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point.


Geohistory   21September 2021
Examining the Threat of the Azov Movement in Ukraine
https://geohistory.today/azov-movement-ukraine/


Common objections are 1) President Zelenskiy is Jewish, and 2) how can a relatively small minority matter, when most countries have a similar problem. The following article answers these and more.

The Grayzone
Alexander Rubinstein and Max Blumenthal·
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/04/nazis-ukrainian-war-russia/


13 comments:

  1. “Zalensky made peace”

    Maybe Zalensky is really anti war …. So he continued the dialog… figured they would have to work it out via the political process peacefully… he won in a landslide…

    As opposed to you guys who say you are anti war but obviously are not,,,

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  2. "To be clear, far-right parties like Svoboda perform poorly in Ukraine’s polls and elections, and Ukrainians evince no desire to be ruled by them."

    Poorly? Get the hell out!

    "The anti-democratic ideology these groups espouse runs counter the values of the Euromaidan. Ukrainians took to the streets to confront former President Yanukovych because they wanted to live in a democratic state where everyone is held accountable."\

    Have the Russians ever, on mass, taken to the streets to confront Putin's police state?

    Anyways, shouldn't be too long before Putin's fat babushka sings.

    And, you know, you're really grasping for straws to make your point for this bloody war when you resort to criminals like Scott --"Tell me what you're wearing right now, sweety?"-- Ritter.


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  3. And, you know, you're really grasping for straws to make your point for this bloody war when you resort to criminals like Scott --"Tell me what you're wearing right now, sweety?"-- Ritter.

    Ad hominem fallacy.

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    1. No, Tom. I just really despise pedos like Ritter -- especially repeat offenders like Ritter

      Also, Tom,

      You posted an article here saying that Zelensky made peace with the neo-nazis. What was the point of that article? Was it to question Zelensky's Jewishness? Was it to question Zelensky's principles? What? And now we get articles of how Ukraine is run by neo-nazis thus insinuating that Putin's war is a war of liberation from these nazis. Yeah, the guy who runs a police state is on a liberation crusade. [smh]

      And a little history from my backyard: When the Italians/Germans invaded Greece (WW2), Greeks put aside their bloody (literally) differences and took up arms against the foreign invader. As soon as the invaders left, they went back to killing each other. And, ironically/shamefully, it was even bloodier than the German invasion/occupation. Same shit re. Cyprus in 1974 when the Turks invaded the island. In fact, one of the things that stunned foreign reporters on the island was how quickly the Greeks put aside, again, their bloody differences to fight off an invader. Hey, go back to the Persian invasions if you like. Same thing.

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    2. You may know math but that’s it. Moron.

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    3. Oh my!

      Dude, you hurt my feelings :(

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  4. Greek its textbook justification from Psychology…

    They allege they’re anti war and pro Putin so Putin starts a war so now they have to justify it via “Nazis!” meanwhile the President and VP are Jewish and elected in landslide….

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    1. Also, Putin's competitor for Boris Yeltsin's job had the misfortune of being a Jew. (I can't think of his namee. Well, actually, I can say it, I just can't spell it).

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  5. It’s a form of the “reductio ad hitlerum”…

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    1. You can tell that they're lacking in algebra and calculus. As a matter of fact, it's why calculus is taught -- to build critical thinking skills. Really. Algebra is used all the time; it has innumerable practical applications -- down to how to wrap your xmas presents! But calculus? Hardly. It's beautiful, it's clever, you should be so lucky to have the leisure to enjoy it for its own sake. It's just to build critical thinking skills. So sad that S400 never was taught calculus. So sad :(

      The calculus bible: (Yes, there is such a text) Michael Spivak's "Calculus."

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    2. So I really hurt your measly feelings. Well then I was right, you don’t know anything outside the rules of math.

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    3. Are you okay? I mean, seriously -- are you all there in the head?

      Why should I give two hoots about your silly insult when I, as well as you, are anonymous here. For all I know, you could be the proverbial "fat guy in his momma's basement" guy. (for the record: Are you?)

      "...you don’t know anything outside the rules of math."

      Ha! Who said I ever knew anything about math?

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  6. Pulling a Godwin now refers to Putin.

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