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“ since President Eisenhower warned us of its disastrous potential 60 years ago. In his farewell address he labeled it the "military-industrial complex":
We must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.”
Yeah it’s called civilian control of the military... did Ike recommend shutting down his West Point? These people think all matters related to war fighting and national defense should be left solely to the professional military...
No thanks ...
IKE trivia: He never saw military combat. He just missed out on any WWI action (lucky for him).
You see, I never knew that. I, for some reason, probably because he reached such a high military rank and, also, complete control of combat forces, thought he had. I thought this until some guy on some online forum (10 yrs ago or so) sarcastically pointed this out to me. Yeah, I was embarrassed and vowed never to make such a mistake again. That's why, you know, I always double check :)
Well Truman (civilian enlisted in WW1 ) dropped the bombs developed by civilian technologists to end the war instead of military plans for a direct invasion of Honshu which was estimated another 1M US casualties...
Now civilian technologists are developing EVs so we can extricate from MENA which has led to the most recent war fighting over a strategic resource (petroleum) ...
This Ukraine thing is all about Ukraine trying to steal Russian investments with US protection by bribing the Democrats... who you morons voted for... now you’re complaining about potential war... when you just didn’t support the anti war candidate (Trump) who was trying to straighten it out..,
So you guys are all big hypocrite morons which is as usual the main problem..,
If we could somehow just get rid of you hypocrite morons that would be the ultimate solution... but I done see that happening any time soon...
The "Bomb-the-shit-out-'em" grifter Trump was/is anti war?
Matt, what's in your olive oil?
As much as Trump may have talked "anti-war," he was a tool of the military and intelligence establishment as much as anyone. He was arming Ukrainian Nazis with heavy weapons after saying he wouldn't do that. Sanctions are as much a tool of war as direct bombardment. They destabilize and kill just like bombs do.
That's true of course, but in Trump's defense, the degree to which the Blob (administrative state aka bureaucracy) and the Borg (Military-Industrial-Congressional-Intelligence-Media-Academia-Think-Tank complex aka MICIMATT) played a role is unknown.
It is clear, however, that they did undermine the deal that Obama and Kerry had with Russia wrt to Syria. Moreover, there was an ongoing soft coup conducted against DJT from the get-go, and they did manage to impeach him twice. The GOP establishment no doubt lost points for not removing him, although DJT saved himself by appointing generals to major positions, and also Mike Pompeo and John Bolton, although he had to fire Bolton for being too aggressive.
This oppositional attitude on part at least follows several important factors. First, the belief of some that the US defeat in Vietnam was the result of a "stab in the back" by opposition to the war domestically, largely driven by the draft, which was subsequently removed as a factor in the future. This has affected their thinking since.
Another other biggie was the fury over Obama making a deal with Putin that he would not act in Syria after the false flag operation that blamed the use of chemical weapons on Assad.
Finally there was the fury over the unlikely win of DJT over the GOP establishment and then over their girl HRC. Thus, getting rid of DJT was make or break.
Other factors include Obama's withdrawal from Iraq and DJT's withdrawal from Afghanistan.(But the problem with DJT was that he was such a disaster in so many other ways.)
As are as Ukraine and Russia go, I think that DJT was following Henry Kissinger's advice to him that the worst nightmare is the US confronting Russia and China together and that China is the main challenge. "They" seem to think that they can take on both on two fronts and win, if push comes to shove.
Opposition to the not-so-hidden agenda won't happen under Biden, as it would not have under HRC, since both are in the their pocket.
This is not to say that DJT was anti-war. He was just being rational about a cost-benefit analysis whereas their calculation is different. He did not like endless war, whereas this is a part of US strategy to at least deny if one cannot dominate.
But I also do not think that DJT was driven by world domination in the same way. He was more interested in a tipped playing field that would preserve US economic advantage and internal strength, and making one to one deals internationally that benefit the US. His way of doing this this was to exert "pressure" economically, e.g., through tariffs and other means of denying access to the US and Western market, as well as punishing sanctions instead of employing the military first.
So I think that DJT differed from them in both strategy and tactics. I am not sure about policy but I think that DJT was more a realist and therefore more modest. I don't think was into the US taking over empire from the British, as they are and have been at least from the days of Alfred Thayer Mahan.
This is speculative for those of us on the outside looking in, but that is my present assessment.
“He was arming Ukrainian Nazis...”
When you see images of Ukrainian soldiers in their battle fatigues, those patches on their arms are Nazi SS Division patches.
Tom, Trump gave the military everything and then some. He escalated the bombings, the assassinations, the sanctions. He redeployed troops, screwing allies (Kurds) in the process. There is more, a lot more, but the one thing I want to stress is this, Trump is, to quote Kelly, transactional. All about him — doesn’t give a hoot about anything else,
All about him — doesn’t give a hoot about anything else,
Assuming that in this is included money, power, and prestige. But DJT was just more transparent, as in "in your face," about it than most, since these are the chief motivators of those that play these games.
Regarding Ukraine though, he did kind of keep the lid on it while "pressuring" Russia with sanction so as not to appear weak. Biden took that lid off on assuming office.
But DJT was laser focused on China, as his former chief advisor Steve Bannon had been. DJT was forced to sacrifice Bannon right out of the gate, and "they" then took down Gen. Flynn. That left DJT exposed.
The "Bomb-the-shit-out-'em" grifter Trump was/is anti war?
Yes he is ...but he’s also not a pussy...
We’ll be right back in one of these liberal regime change wars and counter insurgency things here in no time...
You Democrat lackeys will be to blame ...
“ Tom, Trump gave the military everything and then some.”
What do you think we are going to unilaterally disarm you left wing Karen incompetent moron? LOL!
Oh yeah right!
Maybe get with AOC maybe you two could figure out what a kitchen garbage disposal is....
"Yes he is ...but he’s also not a pussy..."
Thanks for that info., Matt, but I am well aware of his "bone spurs" medals.
The state of New York is renowned for its bone-spurred pussy grabbers.
Funny enough, PP, they have all, at one time or another, been interviewed on the Howard Stern Show.
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