Monday, August 9, 2021

The BBC - Are America's unvaccinated changing their minds

The Great Unvaxxed! 


Timothy changed his mind about Covid vaccines - but only after ending up in hospital with a tube to help him breathe.

He lives in a county in Arkansas where only a third of people are double jabbed. Hospitals are filling up here once more. Doctors and nurses feel overwhelmed.

Despite the surge in cases and deaths, many here remain hesitant - or outright opposed - to the vaccine. And public health experts warn that's a problem for everyone.






20 comments:

Peter Pan said...

He should move to Mass-achoo-setts.

NeilW said...

I do hate this 'repentant sinner' narrative that the media are pushing - particularly when it get replicated on social media with no balance.

How many posts and reports are there about Lisa Shaw, et al https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-57267169

The vaccine also kills people. It just kills fewer people than Covid itself. However either route runs a small risk of death and serious injury. Let's not try and pretend otherwise.

The risk free option is no longer available to us.

Ryan Harris said...

Dumbest narrative ever. About 1 in 27000 people who take the Pfizer vaccine die from it. 1 in 25900 with the Astra zeneca No one under thirty should ever take it unless specific reason because unless you are over about 40 your chance of death or permanent physical injury from covid are lower from covid than the vaccine. It's not the safest or most effective vaccine ever developed. It's the fastest. Never, safer vaccines are on the way for covid, when they are tested and approved. Liberals can get preachy about taking the VAX. But then, no one will trust media or libs because they lied about this vaccine.

Ryan Harris said...

Never should be newer, awful spell chk

lastgreek said...

NeilW,

Big difference between a traditional vaccine like Astrazeneca and an mRNA. In the former, you have a long medical questionnaire regarding allergies and other medical issues to answer before you're vaccinated. In the latter vaccine, such as the one I got, my parents got, most Canadians got, there are basically only two questions asked by the nurse:

1. Which arm?

2. With or without the Bill Gates microchip?

In my case, I said the left arm (since I sleep on my right side), and "without the microchip, thank you very much" (iOS user, will never go back to Windows or android).

Anyways, where was I? Yes, the issue with Lisa Shaw is about vaccine choice (old tech. vs. new), and... nearly all covid hospitalizations and deaths are among those who are unvaccinated.




lastgreek said...

vaccine passports?

Oh, you mean "immunization records."

Try sending your kid to school without his/her immunization record.

Ryan Harris said...

There is conspiracy
stuff out there and alot of people know there are risks but don't understand the specifics. A normal vaccine would have less than a 1 in a million chance of killing you. The covid vaccine is 1 in 27000. I see this goofy libs calling for Children to get this vaccine out of some sort of hysterical need to feel safe. It's honestly more irrational and dangerous than the people that know they are being misled about the relative safety and danger of the vaccine but don't know how to express it.

NeilW said...

" In the former, you have a long medical questionnaire regarding allergies and other medical issues to answer before you're vaccinated."

Not in the UK I didn't. It was precisely the same process as the Pfizer version my daughter got. The only difference was that I got to walk out of the vaccination centre immediately, but my daughter had to wait fifteen minutes to make sure there was no reaction.

NeilW said...

AZ isn't old tech. It's using an adenovirus carrier as opposed to the lipid carrier of Pfizer. It's the same inject a piece of genetic code into a carrier idea.

And as we discovered last week the chance of blood clot issues is pretty much the same between AZ and pfizer.

"The team, led by researchers from Barcelona's IDIAP Jordi Gol institute, found that rates of venous thromboembolism (VTE) – a combination of deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism – were roughly 1.3 times higher in people who had received either the AstraZeneca or Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines than in those who had not been vaccinated."

Peter Pan said...

If "Americans are changing their minds," then we don't need vaccine passports, right?

Americans need help changing their minds, which is where mandatory and compulsory vaccination comes into play.

Ryan Harris said...

No one said AZ is old tech. The mechanisms of action are obviously fascinating but the popular science porn and econ-splaining type analysis from ivory towers should not distract people from the actual risk analysis and real science. Data collected has been thorough and exact. There is no need for dialectics and opinions. We *know* precisely the risks now. I understand that anti science Labour always criticizes and cast doubt on data collection by ONS and Health system generally but there is no reason to doubt their publications and data collection procedures on adverse vax events and mortality to covid generally given it is largely consistent with global data.

Matt Franko said...

And nobody has seen President dementia for a few days…

https://twitter.com/amber_athey/status/1424764433864302600?s=21

maybe he has the delta…

Peter Pan said...

JOE ROGAN Spews FACTS, Media MELTS DOWN

lastgreek said...

Viruses, Vaccines and Variants Made Easy

-- by Richard Condit, Virologist, Professor Emeritus University of Florida.

Now, I heard this morning on the tele: "No jab, no job."

OK, but that is not enough to induce the twenty-and-thirty-somethings to vaccinate. I'd go even further:

If you're under 60, no jab, no sex -- no ifs and especially no butts!

Why only under 60 years of age you say and not all? Well, people over 60 should not be having sex. They should be reading and contemplating instead. Really, why do you think Tom Hickey is so wise :)

https://youtu.be/WLngRqP1PYI

lastgreek said...

"Butts" should be "buts"; awful spell chk :(

Ryan Harris said...

President Dementia is transporting and releasing thousands of infected people into unsuspecting communities each week without quarantine. He has broad authority to quarantine immigrants temporarily for health so he tests them as required but then ignores the result and blames anti vac s for his policy failure. Joe and Kamala need to be impeached after midterms for this. Refusing to uphold basic laws enacted by congress, ignoring judiciary orders, and refusing to defend the constitution...treason.

Matt Franko said...

Exactly…. he’s trafficking those people right into a meat grinder…

lastgreek said...

Ryan, I think (well, in the mornings anyways) that "Congress" needs to be capitalized. Proper noun, you know :)

lastgreek said...

...and nothing has changed regarding U.S. immigration policy. You got Matt all riled up for nothing :(

Same old, same old...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/02/us/politics/biden-immigration-covid.html

Peter Pan said...

Tom Hickey is the stage name of a legendary porn star.