Thursday, May 11, 2023

Social Alienation

 

This is what is happening with all of the doomsday/apocalypse stuff you see out there these days… whether it’s “dollar crash!”… “debt doomsday!”… Christian “end times!” … “climate!”… etc…


Social Alienation 


Social alienation is a person's feeling of disconnection from a group – whether friends, family, or wider society – to which the individual has an affinity. Such alienation has been described as "a condition in social relationships reflected by (1) a low degree of integration or common values and (2) a high degree of distance or isolation (3a) between individuals, or (3b) between an individual and a group of people in a community or work environment [enumeration added]".[1] It is a sociological concept developed by several classical and contemporary theorists.[2] The concept has many discipline-specific uses, and can refer both to a personal psychological state (subjectively) and to a type of social relationship (objectively).


When you find yourself thinking there is going to be some sort of apocalyptic disaster consider you are somehow feeling alienation and that is making you think there is going to be an apocalypse…




13 comments:

Peter Pan said...

I mention Pepe Escobar is a triumphalist and you go off on a tangent. What is he alienated from?

Society is alienated from doomsayers. The stories we tell ourselves are triumphalist. Man's conquest of nature. Belief in progress, endless growth, technological innovation. Our superiority compared to animals. The belief that life is a gift, that it has meaning, that it is worthwhile.

Anyone who dares to question these stories is kept at arm's length or ignored. The topics raised are rarely discussed.

Here's one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

Matt Franko said...

That “extinction!” is a Platonist thesis just like any other… untestable…

Nobody really knows if any of that happened nobody monitored it and documented it…

All these doomsayers are somehow alienated from society… not ideal… not ideal conduct..,

“ belief that life is a gift, that it has meaning, that it is worthwhile”

I don’t know about any of that but all the Darwin biases people away from purpose and creativity…

Peter Pan said...

All estimates indicate a mass extinction event is in progress.

You must be in denial if estimates can no longer be used to draw conclusions.

If you're concerned about the natural world, this is an apocalypse.

Most humans are too parochial to be concerned about anything that doesn't happen to them.

Matt Franko said...

“With widespread degradation of biodiversity hotspots, such as coral reefs and rainforests, as well as other areas, the vast majority of these extinctions are thought to be undocumented, as the species are undiscovered at the time of their extinction, which goes unrecorded.”

Sounds like Trumps latest rape trial with that nut job female… no evidence yet its supposedly happening…

Matt Franko said...

Consider you are under some sort of effect of alienation …

Matt Franko said...

Maybe try increasing your activities socially with other people … nothing major just something small maybe a small hiking club or something every so often… or something else..,

Then see if your apocalyptic thoughts are reduced…

There is at least a correlation between alienation and Apocalyptic thoughts…

Peter Pan said...

Why are you attributing that Wikipedia article to me?

Matt Franko said...

It appeared you agree with it..,

Peter Pan said...

Why wouldn't I agree with it?

It says what it says. It has 331 references.

Am I only allowed to agree with happy information?

Matt Franko said...

Well apocalypticism is a a bit abnormal…

Skepticism is fine but you can’t let a heathy skepticism proceed to alienation… then once you get alienated you start thinking there is going to be an apocalypse…

No bueno…

Peter Pan said...

Skepticism or cynicism?

Matt Franko said...

Skepticism implies you think it may not work and that you may have a better idea.. a hypothesis…

Cynicism is just reflexive opposition… it’s not constructive…

Peter Pan said...

Well if you're not a cynic at my age, you're naive.