Friday, October 13, 2023

The geopolitics of Al-Aqsa Flood — Pepe Escobar

Global focus just shifted from Ukraine to Palestine. This new arena of confrontation will ignite further competition between the Atlanticist and Eurasian blocs. These fights are increasingly zero-sum ones; as in Ukraine, only one pole can emerge strengthened and victorious.
More on the intersection of geopolitics and geoeconomics. Unfortunately, the direction is toward military-technical solutions.

The Cradle
Pepe Escobar

147 comments:

Peter Pan said...

If Pepe believes this is geopolitical, he's thinking like Lindsey Graham.

Tucker Carlson gets it right in his opening comments:
https://rumble.com/v3o5m86-ep.-29-after-the-hamas-attacks-whats-the-wise-path-forward.html

Wisdom.

Matt Franko said...

“ the direction is toward military-technical solutions.”

Don’t get your hopes up… going to require mass incarceration of the violent underclass…

No sign of that anywhere… “out of money!”…

Konrad said...

“The Israelis have now invoked the rhetoric of a “Pearl Harbor.”

The comparison is appropriate, since the Netanyahu government engineered the Gaza Breakout, just as the USA intentionally facilitated Pearl Harbor.

Too fantastic to believe? That’s because everyone is too blinded by rage to ask questions or notice discrepancies.

Just before the Breakout, Israel ignored all warnings from Egypt, and deactivated most of its military forces along the Gaza barrier, and most security systems (cameras, sensors, etc) for the first time ever. Israel also deactivated its “Iron Dome” system. The 51-km-long barrier is normally patrolled by at least three military battalions (15,000 personnel) but just before the Breakout, the Israelis suddenly redeployed two of the three battalions to the West Bank to (ostensibly) provide security for the Jewish festival of Sukkot.

Thus, large sections of the Gaza security barrier were left unwatched for the first time ever.

Further Israeli preparations included serial provocations at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, designed to inflame Hamas.

Nothing and nobody ever gets into or out of Gaza without Israeli permission. (On the south side, Israel and Egypt coordinate their control of the Raffah Crossing, while Israel patrols the sea.) Toward the end of Netanyahu’s fifth government in 2021 his government issued 2,000 work permits to Gazans. Since Netanyahu’s return to power in January 2023, the number of work permits soared to nearly 20,000. The increased traffic let Netanyahu arrange for Israelis themselves to smuggle massive amounts of extra ammunitions into Gaza.

Netanyahu timed his “surprise” Gaza Breakout for 7 Oct 2023: one day after the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur war.

With most security systems deactivated, and most Israeli troops ordered to stand down around Gaza, Hamas was free to slowly drive a bulldozer acroiss the security zone toward the barrier, and spend over an hour tearing holes in it. Then Hamas spent most of the first day running around with no one to stop them, since Israeli forces had been ordered to let it happen. Jews were killed. Likewise, over 3,000 Americans were killed at Pearl Harbor, and another 3,000 during 9-11.

The Netanyahu government set it all up. The security deactivations copied 9-11 and Pearl Harbor. To repeat: once these pre-arranged “surprises” are launched, everyone is too blinded by rage to ask questions or notice discrepancies.

In the coming months, Israelis will slowly recover their reason. They will begin to ask questions. Netanyahu will allow an “investigation” that will be a whitewash. He will ask Herzi Halevi, the head of the Israeli military, to take the blame for the “surprise.” This too was pre-arranged. Halevi is only 55, and he will probably retire to Switzerland on a fat pension. (Netanyahu is 74.)

(Continued below)

Konrad said...

(Continued from above)

MOTIVES

During the last year Netanyahu was on shaky ground politically. He was not popular in Israel, he was under multiple investigations for corruption, and his “judicial reform” proposals had caused ten months of rioting so severe that they had paralyzed Israeli society.

Therefore Netanyahu cooked up a surprise “foreign attack” that was not a surprise, and was not foreign, but had the same effect. It distracts the Israeli masses and saves Netanyahu politically.

Yes Jews were killed, but governments routinely sacrifice their citizens for political ends. Most wars are this way.

Meanwhile throughout the West, most people have been made frustrated and hostile by wokery and cancel culture. No one is allowed to complain about migrants, or black privilege, or the black crime wave, or the homeless, or LGBTQ(P) supremacy, or political corruption, or rigged elections, or “climate change” tyranny, or housing prices, or Federal Reserve excesses – but everyone can vent his angst by screaming for Palestinian blood. The mob is on the march. Europe has outlawed all demonstrations in support of Palestinians.

It was the same after Pearl Harbor and 9-11. In all cases, asking questions or noting discrepancies gets you branded a “traitor,” a “foreign agent,” a “terrorist” and blah-blah-blah.

Peter Pan said...

The History Of Zionism - An Identity Crisis That Led To Identity Theft | Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro
Kim Iversen
https://rumble.com/v3p3lte-october-13-2023.html

TLDR: Zionism is poison.

Peter Pan said...

Dec 29, 2017
Rabbi Shapiro Reacts to Jerusalem Announcement
https://youtu.be/rzYqimDCyjs

In depth analysis! Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro reacts to Jerusalem being declared the capital of Israel, and explains that the Jewish people relate to Jerusalem as a holy city, not as a political capital city. Jerusalem as the capital of the "Jews" is a Zionist fiction, and conflicts directly with the teachings of Judaism.

To all those countries considering moving their embassies, please know that this would only benefit Israel and the Zionists, and has no benefit to the Jewish people at large. Israel does NOT represent world Jewry.

Matt Franko said...

We should have by any reasonable historic measure killed 300m in MENA in response to 9/11 and this probably wouldn’t be happening..

Precision Strike is leading us to believe the global population adjusted % deaths are avoidable.. they may not be…

https://quwa.org/2015/09/12/what-is-precision-strike/

Might have kill them all… or at least most of them…

Matt Franko said...

Solution to violence in cities is either mass incarceration of the violent underclass or just kill them if you are Art degree moron and think we can’t afford the incarceration..,

Matt Franko said...

Just push the Gaza border back 30 miles south and create a DMZ with land mines out the ass….

Radar controlled anti air batteries every half mile if they think they might try drones or light craft again…



Konrad said...

Today a neighbor asked me what I thought of the Gaza Breakout.

I told him the whole thing had obviously been arranged by Israel for political reasons (as I wrote above).

This angered my neighbor. He called me names.

I asked him how Israeli intelligence could be so incompetent that the Gaza Breakout supposedly took them by “surprise,” and yet so powerful that the Israelis now know exactly where all Hamas members are hiding. After all, the Israelis claim that the 7,000 bombs they have dropped on Gaza so far have only hit “Hamas houses.”

My neighbor had no answer for this. He called me more names.

I asked him how Israel could spend oceans of money gathering intelligence on Hamas, only to have it all supposedly collapse.

He became angrier still. His eyes reddened. Veins throbbed on his forehead.

I mentioned that, according to Israel, they know every inch of Gaza, and they are now hitting targets with “surgical precision.” But if that’s true, then where was this familiarity and precision in the run-up the Gaza Breakout? There are videos of Israelis dropping white phosphorous on Gaza, which is a mass-casualty weapon with no precision at all. How can Israel claim to only be targeting “Hamas houses”?

By now my neighbor was breathing heavily. He glanced around, perhaps looking for something to throw at me.

I reminded him that the lie about Hamas “beheading forty babies” has been so thoroughly debunked that even the US and Israeli governments have admitted it was a hoax. So how can we believe anything that Israel says about anything?

He looked at his cell phone, perhaps thinking about calling the FBI on me.

I started to ask him more questions, but he went into his house.

Looks like we won’t be talking for a while.

Peter Pan said...

Don't ask questions if you're not prepared to handle the answers.

Hey Matt, what should be done about Iran?

Konrad said...

In every war, all sides tell lies, but only the victor’s lies survive the wars. Ancient Rome and Carthage warred with each other for 43 years, during which time Rome’s government falsely told Rome’s people that Carthage sacrificed its children on bonfires. This nonsense became so widespread that many people still believe the lie today.

Carthage no doubt told lies about Rome, but we don’t know what those lies were, since Carthage ultimately lost the contest and was obliterated by Rome in 146 BC.

Lies swarm like locusts in every war (no exceptions). People know this, and yet people allow the lies to whip them into a murderous frenzy every single time.

Now we have the “forty decapitated babies” hoax, which has been totally debunked, and yet people continue to scream about it.

With all this is mind, why should we automatically believe any other claim from this conflict – e.g “Hamas murdered thousands of Jews”? How do we know that? What proof do we have?

As humans, we believe what we want to believe, regardless of facts, proof, logic, or evidence – especially when emotions are involved, or when a topic is politically charged.

Matt Franko said...

Iran: I trust Trump on dealing with that pos nation…

I’m voting for trump…

Konrad said...

Put down the Kool-aide® Franko. Not everything that politicians and the corporate media oulets tell you is the truth.

Nebris said...

The main problem with the Palestinians is that they never accepted that they lost this war back in 1948. Instead of taking them in, the Arabs states around Israel used that belligerence to keep their own populations focused outward. But now that those states are normalizing relations with Israel, the Palestinians have lost their usefulness and are a problem for everybody. Yes, that is unjust, but such is politics in the Middle East.

Israel, out of necessity, long ago became the Prussia of The Middle East. One can thank the Nazis for that. It was a Lesson they taught the Jews quite thoroughly. So we cannot be surprised if Israel comes up with ‘Teutonic solutions’ to its problems. Unfortunately for them, the one 'final solution’ to The Palestinian Question [Die Palästinenserfrage] is not politically possible, which is overt ethnic cleansing. So they’ve been doing that in slow motion. When one’s survival is at stake, all atrocities are permitted.

It should also be noted that Russia started a major offensive in Donetsk the same time as Hamas launched its attack….

Peter Pan said...

Ethnic cleansing took place a few weeks ago in Nagoya-Karabakh, and a few years ago in Myanmar. So it is politically feasible.

Konrad said...

“The main problem with the Palestinians is that they never accepted that they lost this war back in 1948.”

Yes. The Jews invaded Palestine with US and British help, and drove most Palestinians out of Palestine, or simply murdered them. In the near future when the USA collapses, Jews will be driven back out, and Palestine will once again be full of Palestinians.

“Instead of taking them in, the Arabs states around Israel used that belligerence to keep their own populations focused outward.”

Actually ten Arab states took in 6.2 million Palestinians, of which 3.2 million live in Jordan alone. They have full Jordanian citizenship. Beyond those ten Arab states, twenty-five other nations have 5,000 Palestinians or more. For example, Japan has 10,000, Mexico has 120,000, the USA has 255,000, Lebanon has 403,000, Chile has 500,000, and so on. The president of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, is Palestinian.

Regarding the use of belligerence for political ends, Israelis indulge this as much as anyone, which is why Israel will not exterminate all Palestinians. Israelis need Palestinians as a constant “threat” to keep Israeli society together.

Israel is not a homogenous nation. It is a mix of peoples who share no more with each other than Christians from Sweden share with Christians from the Philippines. The various groups refuse to even go to school with each other. All that holds Israeli society together is an enemy at the gates.

In the past the enemy was external (Egypt, Syria, Iraq, etc) but since Hezbollah stomped Israel in 2006, Israel has used an internal threat in the form of Palestinians, which Israelis keep bottled up in the West Bank and the Gaza Death Camp. Palestinians are a "mortal threat" that is easily released and easily controlled whenever it is politically expedient.

For example, the Netanyahu government arranged for the recent Gaza Breakout for all the reasons I noted farther above, plus many more reasons that have come out during the last ten days.

Peter Pan said...

Surely the hospital bombing was a mistake?

Konrad said...

"Surely the hospital bombing was a mistake?"

Israel claims that it was “forced” to murder everyone in that hospital because Hamas uses hospitals as “human shields.”

Since all Palestinians are “Hamas,” all must be killed, including infants, the wounded, the handicapped, and the elderly.

The beauty of hospitals is that people collect there hoping they won’t be bombed. This makes them easy to kill in vast numbers.

Meanwhile whenever Russia hits any kind of civilian infrastructure, the West calls it a “war crime.”

Whenever Ukraine, Israel, or the USA does the same, it is an “act of valor.”

I have a question about all this...

Suppose that there is an Afterlife after we die. And suppose that we learn and evolve through various incarnations by experiencing life on this earth. As we go through life, suppose that we incur karma, and we must deal with the consequences -- i.e. we hace an urge to balance the scales. This is not a “justice” thing; it is an energy thing, so to speak. If I murder in one life, perhaps I can sign up to be a victim in the next life, and thereby experience both sides of the equation.

Now suppose that Israelis and Palestinians are joined in a special bond, or a karmic helix, or karmic relationship in which they mutually evolve together. In this life I am a Jew slaughtering Palestinians. In the next life I am a Palestinian who is slaughtered. In the next life I am a Jew again, but I have made moral progress, so now I oppose slaughtering Palestinians. Then I am born a Palestinian again, or I am born outside the karmic relationship.

Nonsense? Probably. But the thought occurred to me.

Peter Pan said...

I would consider the arguments of Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro. Israel has nothing to do with Judaism.

If there's an afterlife, I'll be forced to return as a squirrel and be killed by a human.

Nebris said...

When one’s survival is at stake, all atrocities are permitted.

Nebris said...

PS Remember the Palestinian leadership was allied with the Nazis. No slack, mother fucker....

Nebris said...

@Peter Pan "Who remembers the Armenians"? ~Adolf Hitler ...and who the fuck has ever heard of the Rohingya?

Nebris said...

Jews will be driven back out, and Palestine will once again be full of Palestinians. No, the area will be a nuclear wasteland if such comes to pass, which I confess is the most likely out come. Mecca will prob get a really big one. lol

Nebris said...

When the Second World War ended, the Jews looked out upon the mountains of corpses of their families and friends and decided "Never Again." What that really meant was, "You bastards have been ranted about an International Jewish Conspiracy", well now you're going to get one.

Israel is not only the Prussia of the Middle East, it has the most aggressive Espionage Apparatus in the world. It spies on friends and enemies alike. Jeffrey Epstein is the prefect example. He was an just Asset [which is why he is dead] and run by Ghislaine Maxwell, an actual Mossad Agent [which is she is not dead]. But you can be sure that between them they gathered massive amounts of blackmail material of scores of the world's top leaders.

The present intel failure is because fuckin' Netanyahu was too caught up in his own bullshit to pay attention. [several sources warned him]. Now, being politically a deadman walking, he will vert his rage on Gaza and when he is booted out, he'll be blamed for all the atrocities. He may even 'fall out a window'.

Oh well....

Nebris said...

Yaakov Shapiro is a leftover from 'dead' Judaism, the kind that walked into the gas chambers without resistance. Fuckin' schmuck...

Peter Pan said...

Yaakov Shapiro is one of the few Americans who aren't schmucks.

Israel is just some country in the middle east. It has nothing to do with a practicing American Jew or this Canadian atheist.

Where do you stand, Nebris?

Peter Pan said...

and who the fuck has ever heard of the Rohingya?

We do. Along with that apologist Aung San Suu Kyi who has outlived her usefulness.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/myanmar-elections-suu-kyi-1.6793346

Myanmar makes Israel look like boy scouts.

Konrad said...

”The area will be a nuclear wasteland.”

Nuclear war will not be necessary. Even with its American host, Israel couldn’t defeat Hezbollah. When the USA collapses, Palestine will fill up with Palestinians.

”The kind that walked into the gas chambers without resistance.”

I almost get the impression you believe that holo-hoax actually happened. I say almost, since no one could be that dumb.

The hoax cannot withstand any scrutiny. That’s why most of Europe has outlawed any questioning of it.

Nebris said...

Where Konrad admits he's a Neo-Nazi...and totally delusional. The Palestinians are perennial losers who cannot even unite against their blood enemy.

BTW, the USA might crash and burn eventuality, but Russia and the PRC will be gone long before that. Demographically, both are circling the drain. We at least are set up to absorb immigrants and it's the educated and hard working who want to come here

Nebris said...

@PP, the average American never heard of them and wouldn't give a fuck even if they did. And Israel makes everyone look like boy scouts. lol

Nebris said...

Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.

Nebris said...

The truly pathetic thing is that all you so-called 'radical intellectuals' who are cheering on Hamas would be considered by them to be infidel scum and they'd happily slaughter the lot of you.

Konrad said...

“Where Konrad admits he's a Neo-Nazi.”

Like that phrase still has meaning. Do you also call everyone a “racist”? Be more creative. Say somethig original.

And lose the face diaper. It makes you look as idiotic as you sound.

“The Palestinians are perennial losers who cannot even unite against their blood enemy.”

The Palestinians have survived the evil of Israel and its European and North American hosts for 75 years. When the host dies, so will the Israeli parasite.

“BTW, the USA might crash and burn eventuality, but Russia and the PRC will be gone long before that. Demographically, both are circling the drain."

Dream on, little Face Diaper. I envy your stupidity. It must be reassuring to live in a comic book world, even if it is only a childish fantasy.

“We at least are set up to absorb immigrants and it's the educated and hard working who want to come here.”

Tell that to all your beloved Democrat-ruled shyteholes that are screaming about being overwhelmed. New York and Chicago cry out. “We can take no more migrants!”

“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.”

Face-Diaper runs a phrase through Google translate and expects everyone to think he’s a genius.

Wow.

“The truly pathetic thing is that all you so-called 'radical intellectuals' who are cheering on Hamas would be considered by them to be infidel scum and they'd happily slaughter the lot of you.”

I root for Palestinians, many of which are Christians, and some of which are Jews.

Clearly you maintain your moronic stereotypes in a desperate (and losing) attempt to justify your extreme selfishness and parochial stupidity. The world is turning against you, and you can’t stand it. It’s fun to watch you squirm like a worm on a hot sidewalk.

Palestinians have been sealed in the Gaza Death Camp for almost 17 years. I wonder what Face-Diaper would do in that situation.

Konrad said...

@ Peter Pan

“Myanmar makes Israel look like boy scouts.”

I don’t know what you mean. Perhaps you and I have a different take on Myanmar. As I see it, Myanmar’s government was more or less non-aligned, but eventually it started to lean toward China and Russia. In 1987 the government changed the country's name from "Burma" (which the West had imposed after WW II) back to "Myanmar" (its original name). In 1988 the USA began to promote its “National League for Democracy,” with Aung San Suu Kyi as leader. This group opposed Myamar’s government.

By 2008 the U.S. propaganda machine was in full gear against Myanmar’s government, promoting Aung San Suu Kyi as the “face of Democracy.” Hollywood participated in this, with movies like Rambo IV” (2008) and “The Lady” (2011). Simultaneously the USA funded the Rohingya people in Rakhine State as a kind of “Burmese ISIS” to carry out terrorist attacks against the government.

Myanmar’s government moved to stop these U.S.-sponsored attacks (just like the Syrian government did) so the U.S. began spinning tales of the mythical “Rohingya genocide,” just like the mythical “Uyghur genocide” in China.

By 2012, Aung San Suu Kyi (with U.S. help) became the leader of the opposition in the Myanmar parliament.

In early 2016 the USA sponsored a successful “color revolution” that installed Aung San Suu Kyi as “State Councilor of Myanmar” (an invented new office).

The Rohingya (“Burmese ISIS”) were no longer needed, and they began to complain that Aung San Suu Kyi no longer supported them.

In Nov 2020 Aung San Suu Kyi was “elected” in an obviously rigged election (once again with U.S. help) that the military declared fraudulent. Aung San Suu Kyi appointed everyone that the USA wanted in office, but in Feb 2021 the military arrested her, along with other leaders of her (pro-Western) National League for Democracy Party.

Myanmar slipped put of U.S. control. The USA imposed sanctions on Myanmar, but the game was lost. Aung San Suu Kyi, now 78, is in and out of prison, and Myanmar has been written off in the Western media.

The U.S. lost that round. Russia and China won.

However the USA won in places like Armenia.

Peter Pan said...

Whitewashing the crimes of Myanmar, shame on you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_genocide
25,000 killed, 700,000+ refugees fled abroad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_conflict_in_Myanmar
over 75 years 180,000+ killed, 600,000 - 1 million internally displaced.

The Tatmadaw make the IDF look like boy scouts. Myanmar is a mountainous country covered in jungle, and they have several insurgency movements who have good reason to separate from the generals who are looting the country. So much for the 'religion of peace'.

China and Russia will do business with anyone. Human rights abuses are never an issue. They are big believers in international law because UN resolutions are toothless. (Except for WHO pandemic protocols.)

Nebris said...

@Konrad...weak, no potato for you, suka. lol

Nebris said...

....and yes, yer Neo-Nazi scum. ;-)

Nebris said...

Oh, the Latin quote...I first encountered it in an article in Soldier of Fortune magazine maybe forty some odd years ago when a writer was explaining the origins of the "Kill Them All, God Will Sort Them Out" epithet. I expect you needed to use GoogTrans to understand it lol

Nebris said...

When idiots lose an argument, they acknowledge their defeat by devolving into simple name-calling. Ya mean like 'diaper face'? :D

Konrad said...

I was giving you some kindly advice. Lose that thing on your face. It makes you look foolish.

It indicates someone who stupidly believed in the pandemic hoax, and pushed for vax mandates.

If you had any honor, you would be ashamed to be seen with it.

I'm serious.

Peter Pan said...

Wikipedia's credibility issues don't extend to facts on the ground:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kutupalong_refugee_camp

Myanmar is a military dictatorship without the usual middlemen. Rule by the warrior class, for the warrior class. Instead of serving their country, they serve themselves. Even the lowest ranked soldiers benefit from their graft.

++

What happened in Xinjiang was not a genocide. We can call it Zionism with Chinese characteristics. Imposition of Han culture on a sparsely populated region through repression, re-education and surveillance. A system of control for which Canadian PM Justinian Trudeau has expressed admiration.

That reminds me. What is happening in Gaza is not a genocide. Supporters of Palestine are calling it that, along with the term extermination. And that is ridiculous. In this case the boutique left is responsible for using overblown rhetoric.

Konrad said...

“Myanmar is a military dictatorship without the usual middlemen. Rule by the warrior class, for the warrior class. Instead of serving their country, they serve themselves. Even the lowest ranked soldiers benefit from their graft.”

How does this prove that there was a “Rohingya genocide”?

“What happened in Xinjiang was not a genocide. We can call it Zionism with Chinese characteristics. Imposition of Han culture on a sparsely populated region through repression, re-education and surveillance. A system of control for which Canadian PM Justinian Trudeau has expressed admiration.”

Yes, China has controlled Xinjiang since 1949. China values Xinjiang for its natural resources and its strategic location. Over the years the Uyghurs have occasionally mounted rebellions. When the US realized that China would not become a slave to the West, the USA began arming and funding the Uyghurs, and goading them into mounting terrorist attacks against the 40% of Xinjiang’s population that are Han Chinese. By 2014 China started fighting back. When the Uyghurs started losing, the West invented tales of a “Uyghur genocide” and “human rights abuses.”

This is like the ridiculous Western claims of “Kuwait incubator babies,” or Syria’s Assad “gassing his own people,” or Gaddafi passing out viagra so people could rape anything that moved. Or more recently the “forty decapitated babies” hoax. All Western propaganda.

I also disdain Western hypocrisy. When Israel bombards women and children in the Gaza Death Camp, Israel is simply “fighting terrorism.” When the USA destroys entire nations (e.g. Iraq) it is “fighting terrorism.” But when Russia hits any target in Ukraine, it is a “war crime.”

“What is happening in Gaza is not a genocide. Supporters of Palestine are calling it that, along with the term extermination. And that is ridiculous. In this case the boutique left is responsible for using overblown rhetoric.”

No it’s not a genocide, because Israel does not intend to kill all Palestinians, for reasons I noted farther above. (Israel needs Palestinians as a constant “threat.”) However the Gaza bombardment is indeed an atrocity, since 2.4 million people are in a confined space with nowhere to escape. And the mass murder of those trapped people is indeed extermination.

Israel bombards the Gaza Death Camp every three to five years, and each orgy lasts about a month and a half. I don’t think the current orgy will last that long, since much of the world has awakened to what Israel is. In 2020 four Arab dictatorships normalized relations with Israel (United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Morocco and Sudan), but outside those and the West, Israel is increasingly unpopular.

Western politicians don't count. They grovel to Israel because they know they will be quickly replaced if they don’t.

Nebris said...

@Konrad, oh, so now we switch to Concern Troll bullshit. Try again. lol

You're exactly the kind of moron Carl Sagan warned us about.

And I bet you're still virgin and ya have a small penis. =D

Peter Pan said...

How does this prove that there was a “Rohingya genocide”?

Nobody disputes that the exodus of those people was ethnic cleansing. They were denied citizenship despite living in Burma for centuries. Anti-muslim sentiment among Buddhists is no secret. Calling it a genocide is what was disputed.

Replace Palestinian for Rohingya and Egypt for Bangladesh and there is a situation that is politically feasible. It's just a matter of media coverage, international outrage, and not giving an eff about the first two. Myanmar doesn't give an eff. Aung San Suu Kyi played the role of apologist in that affair. Precisely what we've come to expect from Nobel laureates.

Yes, China has controlled Xinjiang since 1949. China values Xinjiang for its natural resources and its strategic location.

Just as Canada values Quebec for its natural resources and strategic position. Just as Turkey values Kurdish majority areas, and why Israel values non-Zionist territories within its control. That those in control want to deny self-determination to Uyghurs, French Canadians, Kurds and Palestinians is well known. No hypocrisy there, no siree.

There can peaceful resolution of territorial conflict, such as Czechoslovakia, but the usual method is through war. Winning on the battlefield means winning sovereignty. Morality plays no role here. It's might makes right.

Peter Pan said...

^^ Should read: There can be peaceful resolution of territorial aspirations,

Nebris said...

It's might makes right. Same as it ever was...

Konrad said...

Nowhere on earth has there ever been a situation in which one people has kept 2.4 million other people permanently imprisoned in a death camp, starving, despised, shot at by snipers, and regularly carpet-bombed.

Anyone who would support such evil is a miserable little sub-human maggot like Face Diaper, who is now obsessed with penises. Next will come scatalogical jokes. What a wretched loser.

Face Diaper will get no more responses from me. I have been far too generous as it is. I will let that shriveled little worm have the last word so he can fantasize that he “won.”

Go for it, maggot. Enjoy.

Konrad said...

@ Peter Pan

“Morality plays no role here. It's might makes right.”

Only among animals which -- admittedly -- most people are. I do not agree with you that this is something we should revel in.

Anyway, much more has come out which proves that the Netanyahu government planned, facilitated, and encouraged the Gaza Breakout. I won’t go into the details, since no one here is interested, but I will only say that I do not support the hospital bombers.

I remember when Israel invaded Lebanon in 2006 (and got stomped by Hezbollah). On Saturday 30 July 2006 the Israelis deliberately bombed an apartment building full of civilians in the small community of al-Khuraybah near the Lebanese village of Qana. The Israeli attack killed more than 50 people, including 37 children. (Israel claimed that it had “only” murdered 16 children.)

The point is that Israel’s deliberate act of murder caused such as outcry that Israel, for political reasons, said it was sorry, and halted similar bombing for almost 48 hours.

Today when Israel bombs hospitals in the Gaza Death Camp, murdering more people than ever, Israel laughs and says, “Hamas did it.”

Ha, ha, ha!

This is how far the West has sunk. The West that grovels to these hospital bombers. Nowhere else on earth is there anything like this. Not remotely.

Nebris said...

I will let that shriveled little worm have the last word so he can fantasize that he “won.” Proving once again that one should leave the Trolling to the professionals...Pinky Dick. has another cup of coffee

Nebris said...

@PP When one’s survival is at stake, all atrocities are permitted.

Konrad said...

This month’s issue of Women’s Health has an article titled, “How to cope with the trauma of violent images and videos of Hamas’ attack on Israel.”

The article defends the hospital bombers as innocent victims of the Gaza Breakout they themselves engineered. Naturally it ignores what the hospital bombers have done to Palestinians for the last 75 years.

Calling the hospital bombers “victims” is like granting the status of victimhood to Satan.

Meanwhile the West is so pathetic that it floods itself with Muslim migrants, and then whines when the migrants denounce the hospital bombers.

The collapse of the West will be painful, but at least it will bring an end to all this. When the host dies, the parasite will die.

Peter Pan said...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosion

Main points:

- courtyard outside hospital was hit, death toll lower than reported, damage less than reported.
- hospital hit days earlier by Israeli armaments.

The initial story had everyone believing the hospital building was destroyed by a bomb, which would explain 500 deaths. Hamas doesn't have armaments with that amount of yield. Now the facts of the matter are not so clear. Fog of war...

Peter Pan said...

Nowhere on earth has there ever been a situation in which one people has kept 2.4 million other people permanently imprisoned in a death camp, starving, despised, shot at by snipers, and regularly carpet-bombed.

That may be because the usual outcome of these situations is ethnic cleansing or genocide. Refugee camps are usually established outside of the conquering forces' jurisdiction. i.e. "these refugees are no longer our problem."

Peter Pan said...

Only among animals which -- admittedly -- most people are. I do not agree with you that this is something we should revel in.

The civilized method is to hold a referendum and let the people within a territory decide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Quebec_referendum

Or do it peacefully via the legislature. e.g. the dissolution of Czechoslovakia.

I voted in the 1995 referendum. The aftermath could have led to violence since around 60% of francophones had voted Yes to separate. If Lucien Bouchard had been in charge of the campaign from the beginning, the Yes side would have won.

What are the chances of a referendum in Xinjiang, Turkey or Israel on a similar question?

Konrad said...

What if Palestinians ruled the West?

I saw a person compare the treatment of Palestinians to the Holocaust, which is said to have involved the gassing of six million Jews.

That’s absurd. The two items cannot be compared, since the persecution of Palestinians actually happened, and is still happening now.

If Palestinians ruled the West, and the Gaza bombardment was a total myth, then Europe would pass laws making it illegal to question the myth. Endless fiction books would promote the myth, plus endless movies like Mahmoud’s List. Every schoolkid would be required to read the fictional Diary of Anne Mohammed. Kids would be told ridiculous tales about “human lampshades” made from Palestinian skin. Any questioning of Palestinian evil would be denounced as “anti-Semitic,” since Palestinians are Semites. Every Western nation would build Gaza Bombardment museums filled with piles of old shoes. All Western politicians would compete with each other to show that they grovel to Palestinians the most. And endless billions of U.S. dollars would be sent to Palestine.

If that sounds silly to you, I agree. And yet, if Palestinians ruled the West, then most people would stupidly believe such myths.

Konrad said...

@ Peter Pan

“Now the facts of the matter are not so clear. Fog of war...”

I’ll give you that. All sides in all wars indulge in distortions and exaggerations. We can’t know the whole truth unless we are actually there. (The Gaza bombardment is not a war, but the same principle applies.)

Israel claims that during the Gaza Breakout, Hamas killed 1,300 Jews (or is it 13,000?). How do we know this? What proof do we have? The “forty beheaded babies” hoax failed, so how do we know what else is a hoax? We don’t.

However it seems a reliable fact that over two million Palestinian are imprisoned in Gaza, and are being bombarded.

Israel says it has cut off their food, fuel, water, and electricity. How then are hospitals functioning? As you say, it’s the fog of war.

Nebris said...

Holocaust Denial is the Gold Standard of Fascist Fringe Lunacy.

"I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or the assumption that “the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda.” . . . I not only did so but as soon as I returned to . . . headquarters that evening, I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and British publics in a fashion to leave no room for cynical doubt." ~Dwight D. Eisenhower

Nebris said...

No doubt Konrad believes in the Lizard People and that the Earth is flat. He seems to suck up every other lunatic fringe conspiracy. Gawd...

Konrad said...

The only “holocaust” celebrated by the entire Western world is the only one that never happened.

In James Bacque’s book Other Losses (1989) he details how Eisenhower’s policies from 1944 to 1949 caused the death of some 1,000,000 German prisoners in French and American concentration camps through starvation, exposure, and disease (dysentery, pneumonia, etc).

During the waning days of World War II, millions of Wehrmacht soldiers fled westward in order to surrender to the Americans and British, whom they hoped would give them better treatment than the vindictive Russians closing in from the east. Little did the Germans know that they were walking into a trap, in which they would become victims of a mammoth war crime.

Bacque got much of his data from KGB archives, which had been newly opened, and which contained meticulously and exhaustively documented proof of Eisenhower’s atrocities.

US Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau (who was Jewish) pushed his infamous Morgenthau plan to cause mass famine in Germany so that tens of millions would be killed. However the only part of the Morgenthau plan that was applied was the part that killed a million POWs. Beyond that, Morgenthau’s evil was overruled in favor of the Marshall Plan, which sought to build up Western Europe (under U.S. control) as a bulwark against the Soviets.

Under the Geneva Convention, POWs were entitled to be fed. Eisenhower got around this by re-designating German POWs as “DEFs” (Disarmed Enemy Forces), a new term he invented. Eisenhower forbade German civilians from bringing food or clothing to the U.S.-operated concentration camps, on pain of being shot. (Bacque proves all this with original documents signed by Eisenhower and others.)

The U.S. government hid all this by designating the mass deaths “Other Losses.” However at 2:00 pm on Monday 31 Oct 2011 in the Congressional and Monument Rooms of the Courtyard US Capitol Marriott Hotel, in Washington DC, Major Merrit Drucker of the US armed forces officially apologized to the German soldiers and their relatives for the mass deaths in the concentration camps, euphemistically called the Rheinwiesenlager (“Rhine Meadow Camp”).

The American image of Eisenhower is not that of a psychopath, but an honest mid-Westerner who courageously led the Western allies to victory, and treated Germany with magnanimity in their defeat. This is totally false. It’s like calling the Israeli hospital bombers “victims.”

Unlike the holo-hoax, all of this actually happened, but it was okay, since the US, UK, and France did it. Likewise, Gaza extermination is okay because Israel does it.

The victors write the history books, and only idiots fail to question the lies.

Konrad said...

Israel has dropped so many bombs on Gaza’s women and children that the Israeli military is about to run out.

Therefore Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) is pushing to give extra powers to interim House Speaker Patrick McHenry until January, so the U.S. government can send extra billions of dollars to Israel, along with extra shiploads of munitions in order to sustain the extermination.

Biden visited Israel to grovel at the feet of his owners, as did European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen. Today UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak did the same. French President Macron will arrive later this week, and Italy’s Giorgia Meloni will arrive next week. All must get down on their knees and worship their owners.

Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis had planned to arrive in Israel today to grovel, but he canceled because of “security concerns” (i.e. the Greek public opposes the Gaza bombardment so strongly that Mitsotakis decided not to inflame them further). Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez is staying home for the same reason.

Canada’s Trudeau would visit his owners, but he’s still smarting from the embarrassment of having praised Nazi war criminal Yaroslav Hunka on 22 Sep 2023 (who Poland wants extradited to stand trial.) There is no word yet on whether NATO head Jens Stoltenberg will visit his masters in Israel.

Konrad said...

House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Michael McCaul (R-TX) claims that Iran was behind the “brutal land, sea, and air invasion by Hamas.”

McCaul says he is writing legislation to commit the US military to Israel’s war on Palestine. The legislation will also be used to ensure that Hezbollah does not stomp Israel again if Israel invades Lebanon.

Two U.S. strike groups have arrived in the waters off the Israeli coast, one led by the U.S. carrier USS Gerald R. Ford, and the other by the U.S. carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower. Around 2,000 U.S. soldiers have been told to get ready for possible short-notice deployment to Israel, defense officials told The Wall Street Journal.

The commander of the U.S. Central Command, General Michael "Erik" Kurilla, is in Tel Aviv to help coordinate the Gaza bombardment.

Nebris said...

Konrad, you don't have any life, do you? I'm a 71 year old man on Disability with high speed internet, so I have time to kill. What's your excuse, Nazi Boi? lol

Konrad said...

Israel laughably claims that Palestinians bombed themselves at the al-Ahli Baptist hospital on 17 Oct 2023.

The death toll is consistent with a Mark 84 (aka BLU-117) American general-purpose bomb made by General Dynamics. This one-ton bomb is largest of the Mark 80 series.

Israel specifically targeted a courtyard adjacent to the hospital because aerial reconnaissance had showed that the courtyard was full of people and children sleeping outdoors. Some were patients, and some were refugees whose homes had been destroyed. The bomb was evidently set for an air burst, since it did not totally destroy the hospital, and did not leave a large crater.

In other words the Israelis specifically used it as anti-personnel weapon.

Photos show the hoods and roofs of multiple vehicles crushed by a powerful force from above, consistent with an air burst. Palestinians do not have this capability.

The bodies of children were crushed by the blast wave, and then incinerated by the fireball. If a bomb had detonated upon impact with the parking lot, these vehicles would have been blasted laterally (blown to the side).

The murdered Palestinians hoped that the Israelis would not be cruel enough to bomb a hospital, forgetting that Israelis routinely target hospitals whenever the Israelis bombard Gaza.

The U.N. has published figures showing that they have already carried out 51 bombing attacks on hospitals throughout Gaza.

Konrad said...

It will be interesting to watch the demographic fallout from these latest Israeli atrocities.

In March 2023, seven months before the Israeli-engineered Gaza Breakout, a Gallup poll showed that for the first time since 2001 the overall sympathies of Democrat voters had shifted from Israelis and toward Palestinians, especially among millennial voters (ages 23-43).

This shift among Millennial Democrats became even stronger after Israeli began its latest orgy of mass murder.

So the question for Democrats is which do they hate more: Israeli psychopaths, or American white conservatives? The answer may determine the results of elections in 2024.

For example, the Detroit suburb of Dearborn Michigan has the largest Muslim population in America. This area has traditionally voted Democrat, and it voted for Biden last time. Will they continue to vote Democrat after Biden's support for these latest Israeli crimes? They won’t vote Republican, since Republicans are even more pro-Israel than are Democrats.

I predict they will just stay home. We shall see.

Nebris said...

The blast is also consistent with a cheap Iranian missile's fuel exploding after being scattered by a non-detonating impact. That early in its trajectory, it would would have plenty of propellant left. Not the first time one of them has 'borked' and crashed into Gaza itself.

Nebris said...

Nov 2024 is a long way off, spud. This shit will be over by them...and Trump will still loom.

Nebris said...

*then

Nebris said...

And look at you, talking ordinance and shit. Woo-Hoo...lol

Konrad said...

DEMOGRAPHICS

Israel’s extermination drives usually last about a month and a half, so the current mass murder orgy will be over long before the 2024 elections.

However demographic shifts will remain important.

In 2015, woke liberals cheered when Hamtramck Michigan (a suburb of Detroit) became the first U.S. city to elect a Muslim majority city council. Liberal mutants celebrated this glorious blow against straight white males.

In those days Muslims shared “victim” status with LGBTQ(P) freaks, and with woke haters of white people.

However the woke mutants were short-sighted.

Eight years on, Muslims in some areas had gained enough political power to start thinking for themselves. Muslims started living by Muslim values, not the values of woke depravity.

In mid-June 2023 the Hamtramck city council voted to no longer waste any municipal funds on LGBTQ(P) supremacy, or on allowing rainbow flags to cover all public buildings. There would be no more filth parades, no pornography in schools, no mandatory LGBTQ(P) indoctrination –- nothing but sanity.

Woke mutants were outraged by this "betrayal." The tyrannical freaks thought that Muslims shared their “victimhood.”

Today, ironically, woke liberals side with Muslims against Israeli crimes. We’ll see how all this plays out.

The point is that this social and political phenomenon is increasing in many places, especially Europe. Liberal politicians brought in limitless Muslim migrants to displace and replace white people, and now those Muslim migrants are protesting Israeli atrocities. France and Germany have outlawed all displays of the Palestinian flag, but politicians brought in too many Muslims, and are not able to crush all the "anti-Semitic" Semites. All the police can do is form protective rings around synagogues and Jewish institutions. But how long can this last?

The irony is delicious indeed. Politicians brought in limitless waves of Muslims and expected them to grovel to Jews forever, like politicians do. Surprise, surprise.

Again, we’ll see how all this plays out. It will be amusing to watch.

Konrad said...

WALKING THE TIGHTROPE

Now entering its 13th day, Israel vowed to continue its extermination of Gaza’s women and children for a long time to come. Therefore Israel requires more billions from the USA now (and forever).

Standing alongside British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, Netanyahu said, “This is a long war, and we require your continuous support.”

Biden says we must help Israel annihilate Palestinians in Gaza so Palestinians won’t invade America, perhaps arriving by para-gliders. Biden is demanding that Congress cough up a few hundred more billion dollars for Israel and Ukraine. However Congress is paralyzed without a formally elected Speaker.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) had hoped to use the urgency of Israeli demands to get elected Speaker, but it hasn’t worked so far.

Tomorrow California Gov. Gavin Newsom will be in Israel to grovel to his masters.

Corporate media outlets initially worshipped Israel for its crimes like they always have, but woke liberals themselves are calling for an end to the bombing. This includes some liberal Jews who worry about the demographic shifts I noted above.

Therefore more and more corporate media outlets are starting to beg Israel for a cease fire. Yesterday liberal Jews mounted a large demonstration at the U.S. Capitol Building to call for a cease fire. Police arrested 300 of them. Hundreds of liberals in Denver called for a cease fire. The same thing is happening in many Democrat-run states. Thirteen Democrats in the US house have called for a case fire.

So now Democrats are walking a tightrope. They are desperate to please Israel, but they also face pressure from their woke base to stop the slaughter.

This pressure does not affect establishment Republicans, who all love Israel and endless war (which are one and the same thing).

MAGA Republicans are more careful, but Trump (the idiot) is siding with establishment Republicans and Israel, hoping once again to get Jewish support. It didn’t work when Trump moved the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem (14 May 2018), and it won’t work now.

Trump is a buffoon with low self-esteem. The only reason MAGA Republican support him is that woke liberals hate him. Toward the end of his last term he spent all his time attending rallies being cheered by crowds while Democrats quietly arranged their election fraud. What a dunce.

Democrats also have their cretins. John Fetterman is cheering Israel on, and is denouncing all calls for a cease fire.

Israel would probably agree to a cease fire if it could first lock in an addition $100 billion like Ukraine gets. In the meantime, the bombing will continue until Palestinian morale improves.

Nebris said...

Ah, now I see. You're a self loathing closeted Gay man. Dude, just let go and suck some cock. Trust me, you like it.

Matt Franko said...

Yo, hospital bombing was fake news…,

Matt Franko said...

“ So now Democrats are walking a tightrope. They are desperate to please Israel, but they also face pressure from their woke base to stop the slaughter.

This pressure does not affect establishment Republicans, who all love Israel and endless war (which are one and the same thing).”

Pretty accurate imo…

So that covers the foreign policy and domestic policy is extremely regressive “stagflation”….

Trump running away with it right now,,,

But another whole year to go..,

Konrad said...

This latest Israeli mass murder spree has caused interesting social developments in the West, especially since that hospital strike. The Israelis boasted on social media about committing that atrocity, but when the world was outraged, Israelis deleted all those media posts and said, “Hamas did it. Or maybe Islamic Jihad, or…someone.”

Right. Palestinians bombed themselves. (And six million Jews were gassed, and Israel is an eternal “victim.”)

(Speaking of that, the U.S. Holocaust museum says the gassing started in 1942 and continued to the end of the war. Therefore the Germans gassed 5,479 per day, seven days a week, 365 days a year for three years with never a break, even on Christmas, or Easter, etc. Right.)

The MTV Europe Music Awards show has been held every year for the last 27 years, and was due to be held in Paris on November 5, but it has been canceled because of “security concerns.” They can’t exclude Israeli contestants, but if they let Israelis participate, the crowds may lynch them.

Starbucks is suing its own labor union for leaving a pro-Palestinian comment on the union’s Twitter account. The union deleted the comment after 40 minutes, and is counter-suing Starbucks for claiming that the union supports terrorism.

The UN Human Rights Council’s independent Special Procedures body says that Israel is engaged in a systematic campaign of crimes against humanity in Gaza, and that Israel has violated international humanitarian and criminal law by cutting off drinking water, medicine, and food to the Death Camp.

The USA had set aside tens of thousands of 155mm artillery shells for Ukraine, but now those munitions will be given to the Israelis so they can begin artillery bombardments of Gaza. Killing Palestinians takes priority over killing Russians. Zelensky is furious at this “betrayal.”

Netanyahu keeps saying he will order a ground invasion of the Gaza Death Camp, but this is probably just talk. It’s easy to bomb prison hospitals from the air, but Hezbollah proved that Israelis are worthless in ground battles. Netanyahu wants to make it seem that Israel is finally getting tough with the Palestinians it has been murdering for 75 years.

Note how the Gaza Slaughter is affecting the all-powerful “victim” pyramid. Jews have long commanded its summit as the ultimate, supreme victims, higher than blacks, gays, women – everyone. This exalted status has certain drawbacks. Woke liberals hate white people. Conservatives don’t want their kids forcibly sodomized, or undergoing genital mutilation. However everyone on all sides prioritizes the Gaza slaughter, whether for it or against it. Liberals have made opposing it more important than BLM, Antifa, or LGBTQ(P) “rights.” More important even than pushing pedophilia and unlimited abortion. Meanwhile conservatives (the fake ones anyway) have made supporting the Gaza Slaughter more important than anything else. So this issue has polarized people like no other, and the polarization is increasing.

Therefore I predict that this latest Gaza Slaughter will not last the usual moth and a half. Israel will back off so that Jews can reclaim their status as supreme “victims.” If they fail in this, they will be in trouble, and they know it.

Konrad said...

Trump says that when he is re-elected he will “ideologically screen” all immigrants to make sure they fully support Israeli atrocities. How Trump plans to do this is unclear. Trump will also reinstate the travel ban on predominantly Muslim countries that he put in place during his term. Trump wants Muslims banned because they don’t like LGBTQ(P) filth and depravity.

Columbia has expelled the Israeli ambassador because of Israeli atrocities. In Beirut Lebanon, hundreds of protesters gathered near the US embassy following Israel’s attack on the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza. Even the infamous World Health Organization (WHO) condemned Israeli attacks on hospitals.

Israel has deliberately hit almost all of the 34 hospitals and clinics in Gaza, while continually claiming that “Hamas did it.”

Biden said it was unfortunate that so many civilians had to be killed. He wished the dead a speedy recovery.

Germany has criminalized all demonstrations against the Gaza bombardment. Protests are being met with an overwhelming presence of riot police. Any crowd that displays a Palestinian flag gets tear gas, water cannons, batons and police dogs. Even Jews are arrested if they join the crowds. (Such Jews are considered traitors by Europe’s ruling Jews.)

French President Emmanuel Macron warns that resistance to Jewish tyranny is increasing, and is spreading to all of Europe. “There is a resurgence of Islamist terrorism," Macron said during a visit to Albania.

European Jews are demanding that their puppet politicians crush the Muslim migrants that Jews ordered politicians to bring in. Macron, following his orders, suggested that anyone who questions Israeli evil is “ISIS.”

Israel continues to use white phosphorous on the most crowded parts of Gaza. White phosphorus is a chemical substance dispersed in artillery shells that ignites when exposed to oxygen. Because it can cause bone-deep burns to humans, it is banned under international conventions, which Israel ignores because Israel is protected by its U.S. host. When the host collapses, the Israeli parasite will die.

Netanyahu says the Gaza bombardment will continue for a very, very long time. His Ministry of Health is advising the Israeli public to stockpile food for at least four months. Actually the bombardment will end soon, since it is complicating Israel’s relations with the rest of the world. Israelis are being told to stockpile food to offset the retail price gouging and panic buying that always happens during crises.

Meanwhile water, food, fuel, and electricity remain cut off to the Gaza Death Camp.

Nebris said...

C'mon, K-Boi, suck some dick. You'll feel better for it.

Nebris said...

K-Boi, yer so angry and obsessive because you're denying your True Nature. Come out of the closet and embrace it. All your ranting about 'filth' is classic self loathing. Come out, come out.

Nebris said...

You should read Male Fantasies by Klaus Theweleit, his study of the Friekorps in post WW1 Germany. They were also obsessed with 'filth' and had a fear/hate of women, aka the 'source of the moist, the all consuming wetness of The Feminine'. Of course many went on to be NSDAP members, especially the notoriously homosexual SA. You vibe exactly like them, K-Boi. wink

Nebris said...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-fCr_T5_WjA

Peter Pan said...

Trump is not a serious challenge to the status quo. All the candidates are pro-Zionist. (Cornel West and Marianne Williamson would ask their supporters to back Biden, so that makes them pro-Zionist by proxy.)

Konrad said...

“Trump is not a serious challenge to the status quo.”

He never has been.

“All the candidates are pro-Zionist.”

Yes. All the Republican candidates compete to show that “I am more pro-Zionist than all the others.” Biden literally calls himself a Zionist, and Trump says he is more pro-Israel than Biden is. I have no use for any of them.

The only presidential candidate I can think of who was not pro-Zionist was Ralph Nader, who ran for president with the Green Party in 1996 and 2000, the Reform Party in 2004, and as an independent in 2008. Nader’s parents were Lebanese Christian Arabs.

I suspect that Dennis Kucinich was also not a servant of Israel, but I’m not sure. Speaking of Kucinich, on 14 Oct 2023 he left the campaign of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and was replaced by Kennedy’s daughter-in-law Amaryllis Fox, who worked for the CIA as an arms dealer. Fox’s husband also worked for the CIA. These are very shady people.

As for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. himself, he has said, “We must immediately provide Israel with whatever it needs to defend itself.”

No candidate is genuinely pro-America. All put Israel first. Ironically, Obama was probably the least Zionist of recent presidents, even though he oversaw the destructiuon of Libya and Gaddafi, who was always anti-Zionist.

Peter Pan said...

Off-topic, but when has that stopped anyone?

Sound of Silenced Science
https://youtu.be/t2LaDrDL4g4

Peter Pan said...

No candidate is genuinely pro-America. All put Israel first. Ironically, Obama was probably the least Zionist of recent presidents, even though he oversaw the destructiuon of Libya and Gaddafi, who was always anti-Zionist.

How about...
https://ourcountryourchoice.com/

Nebris said...

That shit is right up there with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic_conspiracy_theories

Nebris said...

And Douglas Macgregor is a Neo-Fascist crackpot, which seems to be a pretty popular stance around here...

Nebris said...

I mean, that 'eagle symbol' on that page is soooo overtly Fascist in nature. Gawd dude, try to be a little subtle. lol

Konrad said...

That’s a really good video. With the pandemic hoax, most of the world was gripped by a hysteria unparalleled since the world wars.

Medical issues are the area I have most studied and read about in my lifetime, beginning many years before Covid mania. I watched Covid madness unfold beginning in January 2019, when the US Congress started assembling a bill that would eventually grow into the $2.2 trillion CARES Act. Almost a year and a half before the formal start of the fake “pandemic,” I saw that something big was being planned.

The game began on 20 March 2020 when the WHO declared a “global pandemic.” On 23 Aug 2020 the FDA approved Pfizer’s mRNA death jab, and on 11 September the Moderna jab. No safety trials, no liability, no transparency, no accountability. No proof that it worked. Just shut up and line up and roll up your sleeve– or else. Vax mandates grew like a malignant cancer.

By 4 Nov 2021 Biden dictated that all U.S. employees who worked in a company with 100 employees or more had to get the death jab or be terminated. Everyone in the Executive Branch of the US government had to get injected, including everyone in the US military. Everyone in the health field had to get jabbed. Hospitals were paid by how many (fake) “Covid” cases they had, based on (utterly fake) PCR tests, or simply on people’s word. The elderly were sent to nursing homes to be mass-murdered by putting them on ventilators and injecting them with midazolam so they would be paralyzed as they were suffocated.

Plus there were the lockdowns that we still have not recovered from. There were also the absurd mask mandates (which I am reminded of whenever Face Diaper, that self-admitted lonely and miserable old man, vomits here in this blog). There were the nationwide St. Floyd riots where no one needed to be masked. Foreign tourists had to be vaxxed, but illegal immigrants did not. The lies and contradictions compounded. The “science was settled.” Families were disrupted. Small businesses were destroyed.

Many nations were even worse than the USA. Europe and Australia went 100% insane.

And despite all this, Trump still boasts about his “Operation Warp Speed.” And the peasants still believe in toxic vaccines as mystic charms and magic elixirs. It’s astonishing that we have not all nuked each other in our collective stupidity.

(Continued below)

Nebris said...

Oh, K-Boi, you can hear The Cock calling to you...

Konrad said...

This is off-topic, but it was recently revealed that 77% of American military-aged men are unfit to serve because they are too fat, too drug-addled, or too mentally ill.

Now the American Security Project, a Washington-based nonprofit, says that 68% of people already in the military are overweight or obese. That’s nearly two thirds. Also, the number of troops in the “obese” category has more than doubled over past decade.

The Russians and Chinese do not have this problem. Nor do Muslims. The U.S. imagines that this doesn’t matter, since the U.S. can fight a world war from the air, like Israelis bombing the Gaza Death Camp.

Besides, “The Science” says you’re healthy at any size.

Furthermore if you don’t favor morbid obesity, you are “fat shaming.” You are guilty of a “hate crime.”

Fat effeminate blobs against fit and healthy Arabs? No problem.

Only one of these statements can be true…

[1] Obese people are healthy
[2] Obese people are a risk to the military

The fact that we live in a society which says both things are true at the same time is the problem.

As an empire grows in power, so does its lies and bullshit. Later as the empire goes into decline, its lies and bullshit remain until they can no longer conceal reality. Then they collapse, taking the empire with them.

Peter Pan said...

Col Douglas Macgregor: This Is The End Of NATO
https://youtu.be/EMSQtiqRr-4

Excerpts of his military analysis, beginning with Israel.

Konrad said...

CORRECTION

Farther above I wrote that, "The game began on 20 March 2020 when the WHO declared a “global pandemic.”

Actually it was 11 March 2020. Trump signed the CARES Act into law on 27 March 2020, and he began talking about his “Operation warp speed” on 29 April 2020.

All this went into launching the pandemic hoax.

Once the masses believed in the hoax, it was not possible to awaken them from their trance. People became very angry if you questioned their delusions.

The only people who retained their reason were those who never became entranced in the first place.

Peter Pan said...

Ukraine has been defeated. An estimated 450-500,000 dead, with an equal amount of injuries. Low number of civilian casualties, but several million Ukrainians have fled the country. Probably for good.

What should Russia do? Flatten and occupy regions they don't want to be saddled with?

~

Israel has a nuclear deterrent, so let them take care of themselves. Not America's problem.

Konrad said...

“Ukraine has been defeated.”

You may be correct, since all we have to go on are dubious media claims that Ukraine is still alive and is “winning.”

On the other hand, if Ukraine is done, then why doesn’t Russia say so?

“An estimated 450-500,000 dead, with an equal amount of injuries.”

I tend to ignore casualty figures from any war (including the Gaza bombardment) since all sides distort and exaggerate such figures. I don't know how many are dead and wounded in Ukraine (and I don't care). An exception is when the U.S. or Israeli government denies something. Then we know for certain that it is true. Official narratives about any topic are always lies.

“What should Russia do? Flatten and occupy regions they don't want to be saddled with?”

Expand the Donbas region so that it includes all valuable farmland. This is worth a lot of money. Take over all ports. Build an impenetrable barrier to wall off the parts that Russia doesn’t want.

“Israel has a nuclear deterrent, so let them take care of themselves. Not America's problem.”

Israel -- is -- America’s problem, and it shouldn't be. The USA should cut off the parasite, instead of groveling to it.

Nebris said...

eats popcorn

Peter Pan said...

@ Konrad

Those are Col. Macgregor's casualty estimates, which are higher than MSM reports. The western media is loathe to report how many Ukrainian soldiers have been sacrificed to the cause.

The Russian victory will be portrayed as a frozen conflict.

Konrad said...

@ Peter Pan

I agree. Actually I question whether there is still a war at all. Where do all those endless billions go?

Nebris said...

Russian [and Soviet] math has always been suspect. The best metric is to divide their gains by 3 and multiple their loses by 3 to 5. The other day Putin said, on live TV, that Russia had destroyed 18,000 Ukrainian tanks, which is roughly three times more than all of the tanks Ukraine has ever had all together.

As for 'all those billions', apx 80% of the aid the US sends to Ukraine is military equipment, much of it coming out of storage, the rest - like 155mm artillery rounds - gets spent here in the US defense sector. Only about 20% is 'cash' aid. And def there is corruption with that. Why Zelenskyy fired Reznikov and replaced him with Rustem Umierov, a hard nosed Crimean Tartar. [also a Muslim]

The irony of Putin's invasion is that Zelenskyy's number were in the toilet in Feb 2022, like mid to low 20's, largely because his anti-corruption efforts were failing. "I need ammo, not a ride," propelled him to the world stage and has given him the power to actually fight Ukraine's endemic corruption, which is really a Soviet leftover.

Nebris said...

BTW, about three dozen defense companies, including Rheinmetall AG and BAE Systems, have made deals with Ukraine to build weapons plants IN Ukraine as co-producers. They don't do such if they think things are going to go south. Ukraine's independence is no longer in question and I believe it will become much like Israel, a Garrison State with a major arms export industry.

Meanwhile, Russia has gone begging to fuckin' North Korea for old Soviet era 152mm artillery shells. lol

Peter Pan said...

The next question is how long Europeans will put up not trading with their resource rich neighbour. Fears of Russian aggression will fade.

Konrad said...

@ Nebris

In every war or political rivalry, all participants distort and exaggerate all kinds of metrics. If the USA doesn’t like a nation, then the USA calls that nation a “dictatorship” that is engaged in “genocide.” If the USA does like a nation, then even if the nation is a dictatorship engaged in genocide, the USA praises its record of “democracy” and “human rights.”

All nations distort and exaggerate; some more than others. It has always been this way. God is on our side. We are saints. They are demons. During World War II the USA claimed to be fighting for “God and democracy.” Meanwhile every German soldier had the words “God with us” on his belt buckle.

Regarding Putin, he supposedly said that Ukraine has lost 543 tanks and almost 18,000 armored vehicles of various classes. Such figures are laughable, but that’s the exaggeration factor again. Sometimes the lies are comically preposterous (e.g. “six million were gassed”).

“As for 'all those billions', apx 80% of the aid the US sends to Ukraine is military equipment, much of it coming out of storage, the rest - like 155mm artillery rounds - gets spent here in the US defense sector. Only about 20% is 'cash' aid.”

How do you know this? How do we know that anything claimed by the corporate media outlets is true? Wars, “pandemics,” “white supremacy” – all these things that the media outlets continually spout are questionable. Exactly what, if anything, is being sent to Ukraine, and where does it come from? Who receives it? What verifiable proof do we have?

Some things are obvious (e.g. that Gaza is a sealed prison), but most media claims cannot be believed without independent corroboration.

“The irony of Putin's invasion is that Zelensky’s numbers were in the toilet in Feb 2022, like mid to low 20's, largely because his anti-corruption efforts were failing”

Putin counter-invaded. The USA invaded first by repeatedly meddling in the Ukrainian government, e.g. the “Orange Revolution” in 2004, then the U.S.-sponsored coup on 2014, then the military buildup of Ukraine so it could kill ethnic Russians in the Donbas region.

I am reminded of World War II in Norway. On 8 April 1940 the British launched a naval assault on Norway (“Operation Wilfred”) which involved a land invasion called “Plan R4.” The Germans learned about this and immediately counter-invaded and defeated the British (Operation Weserübung). But since the Germans ultimately lost the war, we pretend that the Germans invaded Norway out of sheer cruelty. And we ignore the fact that the British cruelly invaded neutral Iceland (10 May 1940) and neutral Iraq (2 May 1941) and neutral Iran (26 Aug 1941).

God is on our side. We are uniquely righteous. Everyone plays this game, even when they know it is b.s. “Yes the victors write the history books, but we are unique in history because we were victorious.”

“’I need ammo, not a ride,’ propelled Zelensky to the world stage and has given him the power to actually fight Ukraine's endemic corruption, which is really a Soviet leftover.”

US and European support for their puppet Zelensky is what put him on the world stage. Before that, Zelensky was a third-rate wannabe comedian who played the piano with his crotch, and pushed for LGBTQ supremacy. Meanwhile Ukraine has always been one of the most corrupt nations on earth, even before the current events. I don’t think this can all be blamed on the Soviets.

” Russia has gone begging to fuckin' North Korea for old Soviet era 152mm artillery shells. Lol”

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un arrived in Russia on 5 Sep 2023 for meetings with Putin. U.S. officials assume that both sides negotiated an arms deal. Russian money for Korean munitions. This was just business. You can call it “begging” if you like, but here again, all sides in any conflict claim that the other side is about to run out of weapons, materiel, and personnel, and is “begging.”

Nebris said...

K-Boi gets all his 'talking points' from Solovyov. The usual 'alternative facts'.

Nebris said...

@PP Not as long as Putin is in The Kremlin ranting about how he plans to reoccupy Eastern Europe. And that's not propaganda. He says that shit on live TV.

You guys don't pay attention to Telegram, do ya? It is full of both Russian and Ukrainian MilBloggers. Best source of info on all this.

Konrad said...

@ Peter Pan

“The next question is how long Europeans will put up not trading with their resource rich neighbour. Fears of Russian aggression will fade.”

I propose that the sanctions are fake, and are propaganda fed to the peasants. Europe is buying as much Russian commodities as ever, including oil and natural gas, sometimes directly, and sometimes indirectly through third parties.

I will go into details and specifics if asked.

Konrad said...

Apologies to Nebris.

Your photo showed some person without that ridiculous Face Diaper. I didn’t realize it was you until you responded with your standard idiocy. I had confused you with someone else. Otherwise I would have ignored you. I don’t have time for self-described lonely and miserable old losers on disability who are desperate for attention, even negative attention.

I will pay more attention from now on, and will resume ignoring you like always. Have a nice whatever.

Nebris said...

Dear K-Boi, I just thought I'd share my pretty face with you. kiss kiss

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Nebris said...

I told the wife you'd called me "lonely and miserable". She laughed and said, "Well, you can be a miserable old bastard, but I love you anyway." She is an ex-USAF NCO and is 'to the point'. LOL

Konrad said...

This is rather unusual. Whenever Israel launches its regular bombardments of the Gaza Death Camp, Jews unite outside Israel. However the political situation inside Israel is sometimes more complicated. Right now Israelis are engaged in huge demonstrations against Netanyahu, demanding that he resign. Not because they care about Palestinians, but because Netanyahu’s pre-arranged Gaza Breakout seems to have backfired on him. Israelis are asking why Netanyahu let it happen. Was it an “intelligence failure”? Did Netanyahu arrange for the whole thing? (Hint: Yes. He did.)

They are especially angry about the Israeli hostages that were (allegedly) taken by Hamas. This is new. Normally Israel gives rockets to some group in Gaza (e.g. Islamic Jihad) and pays them to shoot the rockets over the wall, so that Israel has an excuse to begin a regular carpet bombing of Gaza. However this hostage situation is a new wrinkle. Average Israelis see Netanyahu’s government as dysfunctional. They are happy that he is exterminating Palestinians, but why can’t Netanyahu rescue the hostages, or make some kind of deal with Hamas?

Netanyahu’s plan (the Gaza Breakout) successfully quieted the protests for two weeks, but now Israelis have resumed demonstrating against his proposed “judicial reforms.” He’ is 74 years old. I suspect that he will resign, and will continue to occasionally pull strings behind the scenes.

Israelis are dealing with inflation just like everyone else. All kinds of social pressures and anxieties are stirred up. I doubt that the current Gaza bombardment will last the usual eight weeks.

Nebris said...

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Hanlon's Razor

Konrad said...

"Only two things are infinite: the universe and stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." ~ Einstein

Nebris said...

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." ~H. L. Mencken

Konrad said...

"I am patient with stupidity, but not with those who are proud of it."

"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped."

"No amount of learning can cure stupidity, and formal education only fortifies it."

Nebris said...

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." ~H. L. Mencken

Nebris said...

My coda to all the above blather, which wrote exactly ten years ago today...

“I have traveled a fair amount, lived in places as diverse as New York’s upper west side, in Indian villages in the Mexican state of Chiapas, in mansions in Beverly Hills and homeless shelters on LA’s Skid Row.

I’ve met some amazing people of all ‘genders’ along the way. But my general observation has been that the vast majority of humans are very provincial and often willfully ignorant.

As a general rule, humans fear change because it could mean loss. The most basic element of the paradigm I advocate is this: I have found, as a general rule, that human females tend to deal with change more reasonably, and with less violence, than do human males…as a general rule.

In an age where we have technologies that can destroy us by intention within days, or over decades through simple inaction, I believe that is a vital distinction. That is the bottom line. The rest is just boilerplate. And time is running out.”

Peter Pan said...

"Women are Human Beings, Men are Human Doings."

Nebris said...

...and there you have it.

Konrad said...

The masculine and feminine are examples of the cosmic principle of yin and yang. Everything runs smoothly as long as the two forces are in balance. When they become out of balance, society breaks down. Any system in the universe that gets out of balance will break down.

Modern Western society is breaking down. It is wildly out of balance, because the feminine principle is supreme, while the masculine principle is continually attacked. We see this in the constant whining about “toxic masculinity” and the mythical “pay gap.” We see it is the extreme demoralization of average males today, with a corresponding plunge in average testosterone levels. We see it is idiotic assertions by emasculated losers that women are better at dealing with change than men are. We see it in the fact that college enrollment is predominantly female, and homelessness is predominantly male. We see it in women who claim to be “victims” in proportion to their female privilege. And so out throughout Western society.

When societies get this far out of balance, they become insane. For example, the more the masculine side gets crushed, the more we see perversions of the male principle such as eruptions of warmongering and mass shootings. Males become militant homosexuals. Women become militant feminists.

There is nothing wrong with the male essence or the female essence. The problem lies in the imbalance between these two forces.

Nebris said...

All that 'balance' noise is total anthropocentric bullshit. The Universe is constantly in flux and cares fuck all about the 'masculine and feminine'. That is a 'local' paradigm and we have no clue nor any evidence that it is existent anywhere off this planet. It is fucking arrogance for us biospecks on a tiny dustball at the edge of an average galaxy to claim we are a 'universal state of being'.

All of the above is a pretty standard set of Incel/RMA dogma used to justify the inability to get laid.

PS our local paradigms [social, economic, environmental, etc] are also in constant flux, as well. Most of us are simply creatures of habit who get upset when our routine is upended. I'll confess to being pretty much the same.

Peter Pan said...

When we were living in the wilderness, the masculine and feminine were in balance. Life was nasty, brutish and short, but thankfully it was balanced.

Masculine attitudes and behavior are incompatible with civilization, so naturally we have human DOINGS pining for the old days. "Hard times make for strong men. Strong men make for easy times. Easy times make for soft men. Soft men make for hard times."

The purpose of civilization is to lead easier lives. If human DOINGS cannot appreciate the benefits of civilized living, then why bother creating those conditions in the first place?

Stop trying to please women!
Life is much better when we're living from hand to mouth, or from spear to mouth; when our survival is dependent on physical prowess. Killing and protecting, raping and creating life, that is balance.

All this mushy stuff, ways of being, shades of grey, that is imbalance. The universe is meant to be black and white. Your yin in her yang. These are the natural terms of agreement that any self-respecting chimpanzee understands.

And if you're a real devout man, you can run around shooting people screaming "God is great!", and receive the ultimate reward: to hump virgins for eternity.

Down with the emasculated West!

Nebris said...

The below is an excerpt from a much larger volume I've been working on for a bit over two decades, which I'll skip here is y'all are not the audience, which is of course Women [and some receptive Men].

Regarding Useless Beta Males

~First, the term 'useless' is not meant to be an insult, but a literal description, Beta Males for whom society and its economy really have no use. Of course, it is actually far worse than a insult; it is a term of existential annihilation. And regardless of their degree of education or intelligence, most of these Useless Beta Males are aware of that on some level.

Not all that long ago there was a series of uses for these men. There were jobs in factories, work in the fields, and wars to fight and die in. But Modern Technological Civilization has reduced that need drastically and now there are tens of millions of mostly young males for whom said civilization has almost zero use and will likely never have one again.

Automation has replaced them in the factories and the fields and even the militaries of the largest nation states are much smaller than they once were. This is a trend that will continue apace.

As I said, these Useless Beta Males understand that somewhere and that scares them. Most of them will never have even marginal employment and because of that they will will find it almost impossible to find a mate and reproduce...and that is where the real trouble starts.

Reproduction is where Males achieve Immortality, by passing their genes on to the next generation. Most would not think of it in that fashion, but it is programmed by evolution into the reptile portion of our brains.

And that is what I mean by ' existential annihilation'. Faced with the above, these Males 'know' on a fundamental inchoate level that they are utterly doomed. That generates an unthinking terror, which all too often turns into a blind unthinking rage. Such emotions require an outlet. That leads to alcoholism, drug addition and suicide.

But it also leads to Terrorism, Mass Shooting, Rape...and Men's Rights Activism, which is merely a sophistic justification for the latter behaviors. I included MRA as a kind of joke, but its underpinnings are genuinely dangerous in that it IS a 'social and political justification' for Beta Males to act out violently against Women.

When we are dealing with such basic biologically hard wired instinct, social engineering and legislation are largely ineffective. Gun Control and 'Don't Rape' campaigns are not only ineffective, but generate anger at those they are primarily aimed at; those legions of Useless Beta Males. These things tell them 'we don't trust you' [we don't] and to 'sit down and be good boys' [they can't]. In essence, they are dismissive and that only fires the Useless Beta Male's fear and rage.

So what is the solution? Given the nature of our Modern Technological Civilization, there is none. We really have no realistic ways to make them 'useful' again. It is no longer socially or politically possible to cull these Useless Beta Males. And logistically I'm not sure it would even be possible to actually kill off tens of millions of mostly young males – they'd fight back, you know – though that would provide employment for a few million of them in the process.

No, we're just going to have to ride this out until 'organic processes' – the aforementioned addictions and violence – cull them over the long run, inefficient as that may be.

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Nebris said...

Recent tends in demographics indicate that shrinking of younger generations in many places are already 'solving the problem', but that largely applies to the so-called First World [of which China is now a part]. The 'Third World' is still exploding demographically and, combined with the after effects of Euro-Colonial depredations and the encroaching effects of Catastrophic Climate Change, makes those societies dangerously unstable.

Meanwhile, here in The West, The Rich Elites are working hard on Transhumanist Tech in order to survive whatever shit storms are in the pipe line. 'Interesting Times, eh kids? LOL

Nebris said...

RE Catastrophic Climate Change...I'm not sure how bad it is going to be. Might just make life hell for us...or might make the surface of the Earth uninhabitable for several generations. Only time will tell. I have no doubt we'll survive. Humans are like cockroaches, fuckin' hard to kill off. lol

Konrad said...

@Peter Pan

“When we were living in the wilderness, the masculine and feminine were in balance. Life was nasty, brutish and short, but thankfully it was balanced.”

Societies typically pass through the four-step cycle you cited…

[1] Hard times create strong men.
[2] Strong men create good times.
[3] Good times create weak men.
[4] Weak men create hard times.

Then society’s cycle repeats. The West is in stage #4. After the West collapses, women’s survival will once again depend on men. Therefore women will once again behave like women, and stop trying to be men. Women will treat men like human beings. Meanwhile men will not be feminized liberals like that geriatric egg-headed mutant above.

I do not agree that “Masculine attitudes and behavior are incompatible with civilization.” At Society Stage #2 the masculine and feminine principles are in balance. Men and women treat each other with honor and respect. Life flourishes. Population expands. Society is more sane than insane.

“All this mushy stuff, ways of being, shades of grey, that is imbalance. The universe is meant to be black and white. Your yin in her yang. These are the natural terms of agreement that any self-respecting chimpanzee understands.”

When I refer to balance and yin / yang, I refer to all cycles and forces everywhere, from the whirling of electrons to the orbit of galaxies.

For the decrepit old nit-witabove, the concept of balance is “anthropocentric.”

I presume that the language-challenged buffoon means andro-centric.

Nebris said...

an·thro·po·cen·tric
/ˌanTHrəpəˈsentrik/
adjective
adjective: anthropocentric
regarding humankind as the central or most important element of existence, especially as opposed to God or animals.

an·dro·cen·tric
/ˌandrōˈsentrik/
adjective
adjective: androcentric
focused or centered on men.
"I would like to consider the dominant role of men in an androcentric, patriarchal society"

No, I am very clear on the language I use.

Nebris said...

When K-Boi insults me, I know I've pushed his buttons. The nastier the insult, the more I've gotten to him. lol

The Number One Rule of Trolling is Detachment.

Nebris said...

Yes, the present social order will collapse sooner or later, but quite a bit of its technologies will survive those processes. Even after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, people did not revert to cavemen. Many of the Roman social and economic structures survived.

Modern Technological Civilization is simply too saturated with Tech for the usual fantasy of us falling back into some pre-industrail dystopia. And as I said above, "The Rich Elites are working hard on Transhumanist Tech in order to survive whatever shit storms are in the pipe line." That means the human species that will replace us is already under development. This includes things like Uterine Replicators and Female to Female fertilization.

All these "Men will be Men again" dreams are pretty much bullshit and these new humans will have little truck with them. I expect Baseline Humans [as I call me and thee] will be mostly extinct within two to three centuries.

Konrad said...

Claims to be "detached," yet his comments are so foul, vile, and hateful that this blog must routinely delete his comments before anyone can see them. Indeed his obsession is so desperate and furious that he routinely posts four or five separate comments in a row.

Detachment? Right. Whatever.

Calm down.

Peter Pan said...

Androcentric is what we find in the manosphere. An eye-opening echo chamber, whose dignitaries consider themselves (and are perceived by their followers) as alpha males.

Having observed it, or dabbled or trolled it, what do we think of the manosphere?

[3] Good times create weak men.

Why don't good times create herbivore men?
Men who will redefine what masculinity means to them.
Males who aren't fixated on passing on their genes, getting laid, and being loved.

And good times should create herbivore women, who decide not to bring another life into being.

Peter Pan said...

Blog moderator manually deleting comments, or Google?

Nebris said...

I deleted two of my own comments because of egregious typos. All the rest are still here as far as I know. Not so obsessive as to go and check. lol

Nebris said...

Trolling is a hobby of mine. And I've cooked up some pretty good material out of these shitshows. :D

Nebris said...

Plus taunting caloric deewbs like K-Boi amuses me.

Nebris said...

I actually started Trolling back on Live Journal...wow, that was twenty two years ago. LJ was great 'back in the day'. Where I met my second wife, the one I live with ;-)

Nebris said...

Indeed his obsession is so desperate and furious that he routinely posts four or five separate comments in a row.

#5 lol

Nebris said...

@PP Life Eats Life. Even a Breatharian consumes microbes floating in the air.

Konrad said...

I didn’t realize that a commenter could delete his own comments, since I’ve never had to do that. My comments are reasoned and logical.

This further proves my point that the moron above is so desperate and scatterbrained that he repeatedly vomits excrement without thinking, and then vomits five or ten more times in quick succession.

I can see the decrepit little worm obsessively pecking away while he boasts of his “detachment.”

Hilarious.

Nebris said...

When K-Boi insults me, I know I've pushed his buttons. The nastier the insult, the more I've gotten to him. lol

*yawns* too easy

Nebris said...

https://youtu.be/RM5hQ3Qtf-8?si=7izsYpUFtv6Rdk1z

Nebris said...

K-Boi says "I'm out." [yer text is in my gmail even tho you deleted it here]

That means I win. =D

Nebris said...

Bet Franko was amused by all this kerfuffle between 'Art Degree types'....lol

Nebris said...

...as for the original subject of the OP: There was a Two State Solution…in 1948. The Arabs chose war, and lost.

Peter Pan said...

They lost the war but weren't 'scattered to the wind'.

The logical conclusion of war is ethnic cleansing, genocide, or both. Not 75 years of creeping land grabs, restrictions of movement, and time consuming checkpoints. Apartheid doesn't work.

Konrad said...

[yer text is in my gmail even tho you deleted it here]

Really? That’s strange. It was not intentional. I don’t recall ever deleting a message here. I glanced at your profile to see what makes you such a wretched loser, and perhaps I accidentally posted something there, intending to post it here – although I can’t imagine doing that. Posting anything to your own blog would be like wallowing in a cesspool.

You say that something went to your g-mail? That’s doubly strange. Are you so perverse that you warp the Internet around you? In any case you have never won anything in your miserable existence, and you have certainly never won anything here. Indeed you are so lonely that you are now begging Franko to back you up. “Bet Franko was amused by all this kerfuffle between 'Art Degree types'....lol”

That’s amusing, since you are the only person here who is literally an “art degree type.” According to you, your only education was a short stint in the High School of Art and Design in NYC fifty-four years ago. And now there you are, old, fat, bald, arthritic, alone in the California desert, probably rotting in a camper. And I’m sorry to disappoint you, but no, I am not a homosexual. Your flirting and teasing in that regard were cringe-worthy.

Regarding your beloved Israelis, as I said before, those stinky little maggots only exist because of their American host. When the USA collapses, the parasites will flee from Palestine, and they will crawl around looking for some new host. Everyone knows this. Even you know it. Perhaps you will live long enough to see it, but you are close to leaving this world, so maybe not.

Anyway you are boring, so yes, I am done with you. Adios.

Konrad said...

@ Peter Pan

“Apartheid doesn’t work.”

Apartheid works as long as you have a powerful host (the USA) to give you unconditional support and protection.

Israelis need Palestinians as a glue to keep Israeli society together. Israelis must have a constant “threat,” which they sustain by keeping more than two million people in a death camp, and bombing them every few years. On 7 Oct 2023 Netanyahu even engineered a brief Gaza Breakout for these reasons. That was new. Netanyahu didn’t do that the last time he ordered a six-week carpet-bombing of Gaza (8 July – 26 August 2014).

How brave the Israelis are to bomb captive women and children round-the-clock from the air. They call this a “war.” On Wednesday a couple of Israeli bulldozers punched a hole in the security barrier in northern Gaza (knowing it had been evacuated) so Israel could mount a symbolic “ground invasion” for the TV cameras. The “invasion” consisted of a couple of Israeli tanks entering, firing a few rounds at distant piles of rubble, and quickly fleeing back through the hole.

So stunning and brave.

Nebris said...

K-Boi, and yet you seem compelled to respond to me. lol

FYI, I was a 'fat old man' up until I lost about 80lbs back in 2021. I kinda miss that, but it IS better for my health. [committed to outliving the wife and our cats, ya know, The Responsible Male thing] Not going bald however. ;-)

Blogger sends me the texts at Gmail. [all Google, ya know] If one looks, the comment window below gives one that option.

Your PP response is broadly accurate. The Jews are 'a stiff necked people' as is says in some holy text or other. Golda Meir once said, "If the Arabs really wanted to destroy us, they've leave us alone." But of course Israel's Arab neighbors need Israel as well, to distract from their own incompetence and corruption.

PS 'stinky little maggots' is classic Nazi antisemitic language, affirming my earlier appraisal of your politics...and still think yer a cocksucker. lol

There, all in one text. Happy now?