SouthFront Documentary On MH17 Reveals 5-Year-Long String Of Lies

Available now on YouTube. I would not count on it remaining so.

SouthFront
Documentary On MH17 Reveals 5-Year-Long String Of Lies

Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Accuses Us And Allies Of Mh17 Fabrication, Violation Of Rule Of Law— John Helmer

MH17 was a Malaysian airliner. Now that Russiagate has imploded will this affair, too?

Dances with Bears
MALAYSIAN PRIME MINISTER MAHATHIR ACCUSES US AND ALLIES OF MH17 FABRICATION, VIOLATION OF RULE OF LAW
John Helmer

John Helmer — Russia Lie Detector Catches Australian Prime Minister, Canadian Foreign Minister

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The truth, revealed last week in Brandis’s papers, is that Brandis and Prime Minister Turnbull have been hiding what they, not Russian government officials, know about the incident. A source in Canberra close to these papers emerged following the release of this report last week. The source identified himself as privy to the classified intelligence on MH17 in the days and weeks which followed the incident. The source was also privy to the discussion in the National Security Committee of Cabinet (NSC), the topmost decision-making body in Australia for Ukraine and Russia.

According to the new disclosures, the Australian Government believed in 2014 — and Brandis and Turnbull believe still — that in the daylight hours before MH17 was shot down, Ukrainian Government military forces were using the overflight of civilian airlines in eastern Ukraine as shadow and shield for attacks against ground targets in the belief the separatist forces would not return fire for fear of hitting the civilian airliners.

The source has also revealed it was the Australian Government’s conclusion that the Kiev regime did not close the airspace in the Donbass region to civilian air traffic above the war zone because of the operational advantage Malaysian Airlines transit gave to Ukrainian Air Force operations. The Australian officials recognize this calculation to be a violation of the Geneva Conventions on war crimes. The source is sure the intelligence leading to this finding was American, so the implication is that the US Government also shares the Australian finding – in secret.

The Australian officials concluded — the source has reported — that what had happened to MH17 was an unintentional accident on the part of those who fired the BUK missile. Without intention, there was no crime on the part of those on the ground, whoever they were — if they were the Novorussian separatists, or a regular Ukrainian Army missile battery, or a unit of the irregular forces paid by Igor Kolomoisky and others.

Dances with Bears

Russia Lie Detector Catches Australian Prime Minister, Canadian Foreign Minister – Which Country’s Media Conceal the Lie Machine?

John Helmer

Christoper Black — Open Letter to Donald Trump on Investigation of MH17

Now that Trump has been elected, a group, including this writer, led by the German journalist Billy Six, has written an open letter to President-Elect trump calling on him to honour his statements. The letter, dated November 25, 2016 states as follows:

“Dear Mr. Trump,
Your election has raised hopes that easing of tensions, between U.S. and Russia, and peacemaking in Europe in general is achievable. Settlement of the ongoing conflict in Eastern Ukraine and lifting the sanctions against Russia, which is vital for the world community, has a realistic chance now. With this in mind, there is also hope for a higher quality investigation into the disputed downing of MH17, as you expressed your doubts in an October 2015 interview, regarding the proof of Russian guilt:

‘They say it wasn’t them. It may have been their weapon, but they didn’t use it, they didn’t fire it, they even said the other side fired it to blame them. I mean to be honest with you, you’ll probably never know for sure.’ (MSNBC)

Indeed, we agree with you, we will never be sure, with the kind of investigation we have seen over the past two years. The official investigation of the “Dutch Safety Board“ (DSB) and the “Joint Investigation Team“(JIT) was neither independent nor convincing. This kind of investigation forms a huge burden particularly to the families who lost their loved ones in the downing of MH17. They need to know the truth.

WE ARE ASKING YOU, TO PLEASE PUSH FOR A NEW INVESTIGATION. This could happen within an international framework like the U.N. comprising the following aspects:

A team of international, independent scientists who would be able to exclude veto power for any government. This exclusion of veto is especially important, due to the overwhelming role of one of the involved parties, Ukraine. The main source of information to the DSB and JIT used for their official investigations was SBU, the Ukrainian secret service.

Keeping all scenarios on the table.

Declassifying and releasing “available satellite images” claimed by Secretary of State, John Kerry, on 20th of July 2014; or (if not) disclaiming their existence.

Conducting forensic examination of impact holes (for metal residues) in the MH17 wreckage and reproducing the same pattern of damage by shelling tests (as usually done in crime cases). Completing key information fields, such as body forensics, voice recorder, radar data etc.

Prior construction of, a clear path to an international, objective trial in the U.N. framework with judges from countries which are not connected with the crash.

FURTHERMORE, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO PLEASE INITIATE PEACE TALKS WITH ALL PARTIES CONCERNED (including but not limited to Russia, Ukraine, and the EU) aiming at settling the dispute and establishing a reconstruction plan for Eastern Ukraine including the compensation of the MH17 families.

Thank you so much, in advance, for your attention to this matter.

Independent journalists & experts on MH17.”

Signed by,MARK BARTALMAI, journalist & Ukraine documentaries producer, GERMANYDR. THIERRY BAUDET, journalist, publicist & initiator of Dutch referendum on EU/Ukraine association agreement, NETHERLANDSBERND BIEDERMANN, missile defense colonel ret., military attaché ret. & book author, GERMANYCHRISTOPHER BLACK, international criminal lawyer, CANADANORBERT FLEISCHER, investigative journalist, GERMANYPROF. DR. ELMAR GIEMULLA, lawyer of German MH17 victims, GERMANYDR. HERMANN HAGENA, airforce general ret. & author of MH17 military study, GERMANYPROF. DSC. OTTO-FRIEDRICH HAGENA, physicist, GERMANYPETER HAISENKO, journalist, publisher & former “Lufthansa” pilot, GERMANYJOHN HELMER, longest-serving foreign correspondent in Russia, UNITED STATESFRANK HÖFER, journalist & film producer, GERMANYDIETER KLEEMANN, airforce colonel / trainer ret. & book author, GERMANYPATRICK LANCASTER, investigative journalist with 100s of hours on MH17 site from day one & U.S. Navy veteran, UNITED STATESDR. JAMES O´NEILL, barrister on human rights & geopolitical analyst, AUSTRALIAJOOST NIEMÖLLER, journalist & MH17 book author, NETHERLANDSGRAHAM PHILLIPS, investigative journalist, UNITED KINGDOMPROF. DR. KEES VAN DER PIJL, political scientist, peace activist & author, NETHERLANDSHECTOR REBAN, political analyst & blogger on MH17, NETHERLANDSNORBERT K. REISBERG, Lt.-Col. ret., airforce pilot ret. & military scientist, GERMANYDAN SHEPPARD, private MH17 researcher, AUSTRALIAJOACHIM SIEGERIST, journalist, publisher & author, GERMANYBILLY SIX, investigative journalist & book author, GERMANYMAX VAN DER WERFF, blogger & private MH17 investigator, NETHERLANDSPROF. KAREL VAN WOLFEREN, journalist, political analyst & book author, NETHERLANDSMOHD AZAHAR ZANUDIN, technician, supplier for army/police & blogger on MH17, MALAYSIA

NEO
Trump and MH17: Just One Step Too Far?
Christopher Black, international criminal lawyer based in Toronto

John Helmer — FOUR MH

If you are following MH17 at all, you will want to read this in full. Lots of details. Here is the lede:

You don’t need to be an expert in ground-to-air warfare, radar, missile ordnance, or forensic criminology to understand the three fundamental requirements for prosecuting people for crimes. The first is proof of intention to do what happened. The second is proof of what could not have happened amounts to proof that it didn’t happen. The third is proof beyond reasonable doubt.

These are not, repeat not, the principles of the Joint Investigation Team (JIT), a team of police, prosecutors, and spies from The Netherlands, Ukraine, Malaysia, Belgium, and Australia. They have committed themselves to proving that a chain of Russian military command intended to shoot down and was criminally responsible for the destruction of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 on July 17, 2014, and for the deaths of all 298 people on board. The JIT case for Russian culpability hinges on five elements occurring in sequence – that a BUK missile was launched to the east of the aircraft, and approached it head-on, before exploding on the port (left) side of the cockpit.

Pause, rewind, then reread slowly in order to identify the elements of intention, causation, and culpability: (1) the BUK missile was aimed with a target acquisition radar by operators inside a BUK vehicle at a target flying in the sky and ordered to fire; (2) they fired from their vehicle parked on the ground facing east towards the aircraft’s approach; (3) the missile flew west and upwards to a height of 10,060 metres; (4) the warhead detonated; (5) the blast and the shrapnel tore the cockpit from the main fuselage; destroyed one of the aircraft engines; and caused the aircraft to catch fire, fall to the ground in pieces, and kill everyone.

On Wednesday afternoon, in the small Dutch town of Nieuwegein, two Dutchmen, one a prosecutor, one a policeman, claimed they have proof that this is what happened. For details of the proof they provided the world’s press, read this. Later the same day, in Moscow, a presentation by two Russians from the Almaz-Antei missile group, one a missile ordnance expert, the other a radar expert, presented their proof of what could not have happened. Click to watch.

The enemies of Russia accept the Dutch proof and ignore the Russian proof. As Wilbert Paulissen, the Dutch policeman, claimed during the JIT briefing, “the absence of evidence does not prove [the BUK missile] was not there.”
Paulissen may be right. To prove he’s right all he has to do is to fill in the gap between the JIT version of what happened and the Russian version of what could not have happened by answering these questions. To convince a court and jury, Paulissen’s answers to these questions must be beyond reasonable doubt.…

Dances with Bears
FOUR MH
John Helmer

See also

Consortium News
The Official and Implausible MH-17 Scenario

Robert Parry

Alexander Mercouris — Joint Investigation Team on MH-17: Why the case is still open

Alexander Mercouris smells bullshit.

The Duran
Joint Investigation Team on MH-17: Why the case is still open

Alexander Mercouris

See also

150,000 intercepted phone calls provided by Ukraine’s impartial secret services and twitter tweets prove Russia’s MH-17 guilt
Alex Christoforou

Why Kiev is to blame for MH-17 tragedy
Adam Garrie

Robert Parry — The Official and Implausible MH-17 Scenario

As far as I can see, there is no entirely plausible scenario on the table this far. There is also no scenario that has a plausible account of both motive and execution of a plan. However, the situation is complicated by several factors. All the evidence available has not been revealed publicly for examination and likely will not "for security reasons." Secondly, the investigation was compromised by a party to events with a stake in the outcome of the investigation being included as a member of the investigative body.

Robert Parry suggests why the recent report is more disinformation in the ongoing information war. There are more reasons that Parry lists.

Consortium News
The Official and Implausible MH-17 Scenario

Robert Parry

Anatoly Karlin — A Couple of Things on MH17

I don't wish to draw any conclusions from the recently released report about the shoot down of MH17. First, the report proves no actual evidence but only refers to evidence. That evidence was proved by the Ukrainian government from military and intelligence sources. Secondly, Ukraine was a participant in the investigation even though it was a party involved.

However, Karlin offers a plausible account based on facts that are known and filing in some details. 

An account has to provide a motive. There is no plausible motive for either Ukrainian rebels or Russian personnel deliberately targeting a civilian aircraft.

Now consider the following two facts: 

First, MH17 was diverted to fly over contested airspace.

Second, it is known that MH17 was being trailed by two Ukrainian Su-25′s. (Some conspiracy theories allege that they were actually the ones who shot it down).

An alternate possibility, however, is that the Su-25 escorts and possibly the diversions were an intentional Ukrainian policy to increase the chances of an AA missile fired by an inexperienced rebel crew bringing down a civilian airliner. After drawing out the missiles, the Ukrainian fighters would engage their counter-measures and fly off, while the missiles would autonomously home in on the target with the much bigger radar signature – that is, MH17 itself. The resulting fallout would hopefully pressure Russia into withdrawing support for the rebellion.

Frankly this is the theory I consider most likely because it is more or less the only one that explains all aspects of the case.

It explains why the Americans have no released their intelligence. If it was to show the Su-25′s were directly or almost directly below MH17 then questions would be asked.
It explain why we have not seen a consistent or credible alternate theory from Russia.

Because there is none. While if it where to push this theory it would then have to admit that at the it is to some extent culpable.

And it would also explain the findings of the Dutch report. It might well be just true. But…

Nor would it in any case qualify as an act of terrorism.

It cannot qualify as an act of terrorism because as phone conversations between the rebels in the immediate aftermath prove, and as the US itself has admitted, the shooting down of MH17 if done by the rebels was based on the mistaken impression that it was a legitimate military target.

The Unz Review

A Couple of Things on MH17
Anatoly Karlin

Also

The lawyer for the victims families reminds that Ukraine was responsible for its air space, and it knowingly diverted the aircraft into a conflict zone on its territory.

“Our argument is that the Ukrainian government was completely aware of what happened on the ground, that there was a separatist movement. They obviously knew about the equipment they had. That the equipment could reach higher altitudes, because the government closed the airspace two days before the downing of MH17. It closed the airspace after the level of 6,600 meters which is not enough because given the size of the danger the whole airspace should have been closed,” Elmar Giemulla, the victim’s lawyer and leading expert on air law told RT.

When asked by RT correspondent Paula Slier if Ukraine “could be to blame” for the MH17 tragedy, Giemulla emphasized that “whoever shot or pushed the button of the missile – this is not relevant for my case,” because the aim of the lawsuit is to create a strong precedent in international civil aviation making government responsible for sky safety over its territory, the lawyer said, adding that “of course” the relatives of the victims want to find the responsible party as well.

Giemulla’s comments come the same day as a Dutch-led Joint Investigation Team (JIT) report concluded that the Buk missile that was allegedly used by the rebels in Ukraine to take down the Boeing was taken to Ukraine from Russian territory.

RT
‘Ukraine fully responsible for security of its own airspace’ – MH17 victims’ lawyer to RT

John Helmer — Flashlight From Mh-17 Investigation — Dutch, Australian And Ukrainian Police Announce End Of Tunnel; Russian Generals Announce Tunnel Vision

MH17 conclusion in, results as expected. The Rooskies did it.

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Flashlight From Mh-17 Investigation — Dutch, Australian And Ukrainian Police Announce End Of Tunnel; Russian Generals Announce Tunnel VisionJohn Helmer

Robert Parry — ‘Fraud’ Alleged in NYT’s MH-17 Report

More faux reporting from the New York Times. Pushing the Iraq faux narrative and later being exposed was apparently not enough.

Forensic experts are challenging an amateur report – touted in The New York Times – that claimed Russia faked satellite imagery of Ukrainian anti-aircraft missile batteries in eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014, the day that Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot out of the sky killing 298 people.

In a Twitter exchange, Dr. Neal Krawetz, founder of the FotoForensics digital image analytical tool, wrote: “‘Bad analysis’ is an understatement. This ‘report’ is outright fraud.”

Another computer imaging expert, Masami Kuramoto, wrote, “This is either amateur hour or supposed to deceive audiences without tech background,” to which Krawetz responded: “Why ‘or’? Amateur hour AND deceptive.”

On Saturday, The New York Times, which usually disdains Internet reports even from qualified experts, chose to highlight the report by arms control researchers at armscontrolwonk.com who appear to have little expertise in the field of forensic photographic analysis.…

In other words, the Times, the Post and the rest of the mainstream U.S. media want the Russians to be guilty, so they exclude from their articles evidence that suggests that some element of the Ukrainian military might have fired the fateful missile. Such “group think” is, of course, the same journalistic malfeasance that led to the false reporting about Iraq’s WMD. Doubts, even expressed by experts, were systematically filtered out then and the same now.… 

Consortium News
‘Fraud’ Alleged in NYT’s MH-17 Report
Robert Parry

See also

How the Right Tears Down America

Mike Lofgren

Robert Parry — MH-17 Probe Relies on Ukraine for Evidence

The oft-delayed probe into the 2014 shoot-down of MH-17 over eastern Ukraine has been tainted by its dependence on Ukraine’s intelligence service for much of its evidence, as a new interim report makes clear, reports Robert Parry.

Parry is one of the best sources for keeping up on the MH17 investigation.

The Dutch-led investigation into the 2014 shooting-down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 relies heavily on information provided by the Ukrainian security service and operates primarily from a field office in Kiev, despite the fact that Ukraine should be a principal suspect in the mystery of who was responsible for killing 298 people.

The cozy relationship between the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) and the Ukrainian government’s secret service emerges from a report presented to Dutch families of MH-17 victims in the last few days, a portion of which was made available to me.

Consortium News
MH-17 Probe Relies on Ukraine for Evidence

Robert Parry

MH17 update

Update on MH17. More propaganda, no facts.

Consortium News
More Game-Playing on MH-17?
Robert Parry

See also

Dances with Bears
MH17 CORONER MICHAEL BARNES, AUSTRALIAN LAWYERS IN HEAD-ON CRASH WITH THE RULES OF EVIDENCE
John Helmer

John Helmer — MH17 – DUTCH PROSECUTOR OPENS DOUBT ON MH17 EVIDENCE

Dutch government prosecutors investigating the downing of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 have reported that secret US satellite intelligence they have been shown cannot be used in evidence in a prosecution in an international or Dutch court, and that no evidence is currently available to charge anyone for the crime of firing on the aircraft, killing the 298 passengers and crew on board. The report, in the form of a 5-page letter addressed to families of the victims was signed by Fred Westerbeke, the Dutch official in charge of the investigation, and mailed last week.

Yesterday the Australian government, whose federal police are participating with the Dutch in the criminal investigation, dissociated itself from the contents and conclusions of the Dutch government letter, despite the claim on the signature line by Westerbeke that he was reporting “on behalf of the Joint Investigation Team [comprising] Australia, Belgium, Malaysia, Ukraine and Netherlands”.

The Dutch letter has not been sent to Denise Kenke, daughter of Willem Grootscholten, one of the Dutch passengers killed on MH17. To date, she is the only MH17 family member to launch a lawsuit in the European Court of Human Rights or in any other court in Europe. She is charging the Ukraine Government with culpable negligence. The court has placed a secrecy order on the Kenke case; reassigned the judges on the case; and refused to hear evidence on the charges against Ukraine.

Westerbeke has told the selected recipients of his report there is “no video or film footage available from launch or trajectory of the missile”. He implies the investigators have now concluded that widely published photographs of the launch and the missile contrail in the sky are unreliable or false….

Dances with Bears
MH17 – DUTCH PROSECUTOR OPENS DOUBT ON MH17 EVIDENCE

John Helmer

John Helmer — European Court Of Human Rights Fires Secret Ukraine Missile To Down MH17 Victim’s Case

For those following this.

Dances with Bears
European Court Of Human Rights Fires Secret Ukraine Missile To Down MH17 Victim’s Case
John Helmer

Sputnik — Russian Missile Maker Blows Up Decommissioned Boeing in MH17 Probe

On October 13 Russia’s Almaz-Antey missile manufacturer will present the results of its experimental destruction of a Boeing jet similar to the MH17 plane shot down over Ukraine last year to prove the jet was not shot down by modern Russian weapons, Russian media reported Thursday.

"The company will present the results of a real-time simulation of a BUK missile hitting a passenger jet which we hope will help us understand what exactly caused the July 17, 2014 crash of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 in Ukraine’s Donetsk region,” Almaz-Antey said in a statement.

Almaz-Antey specialists exploded a missile beneath a decommissioned Boeing as part of the experiment which they said was expensive but necessary.…

Sputnik International
Russian Missile Maker Blows Up Decommissioned Boeing in MH17 Probe

John Helmer — MH17 – Why The Investigation Will Never End, The Evidence Never Seen

Another official investigation hopelessly compromised.

Dances with Bears

MH17 – Why The Investigation Will Never End, The Evidence Never Seen

John Helmer

John Helmer — MH17 – The Lie To End All Truths, And The New Evidence

Presidents Vladimir Putin and Barack Obama have on file three pieces of evidence showing both of them knew what had caused the crash of Malaysian Airlines MH17, and of the deaths of all 298 souls on board. They knew it little more than two hours after the crash had occurred in eastern Ukraine. They also knew each other knew it, because they discussed what had happened in a telephone call which took place before 19:45 Moscow time, 11:45 Washington time, on Thursday, July 17. MH17 was downed that day at 16:20 Ukraine time, 17:20 Moscow time, 09:20 Washington time.

The first piece of evidence is the agenda paper for the telephone call. This had been negotiated and formalized by the Russian Foreign Ministry, the Russian Embassy in Washington, the State Department and the White House before July 17. The second piece of evidence is the tape of the Putin-Obama conversation, as recorded by the Kremlin. The third piece of evidence is the tape of the Obama-Putin conversation, as recorded by the White House.

This evidence establishes that Putin believed, and Obama believed Putin would announce, not that a ground-to-air missile had brought MH17 down, but that other weapons had done so. The story that a Russian-made Buk missile had caused the disaster began after Obama had spoken to Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko at about 19:00 Kiev time, 20:00 Moscow time, 12 noon Washington time.

Take away that story, because Obama knew it to be false when he had spoken earlier to Putin, and what do you have? A war crime by two governments. How to prove innocence and guilt? The tapes at the Kremlin and the White House.…

All along, the US has simply repeated what the Ukrainian government has claimed, to the point of exasperation of many Europeans, who understood the the facts on the ground and the games that the Ukrainian government was playing. What is not known is how much the Ukrainian government was being fed by the US. Many suspect a lot.

Dances with Bears
MH17 – The Lie To End All Truths, And The New Evidence
John Helmer

John Helmer — MH17 – Inadmissible Evidence For What Cannot Have Happened

Forensic evidence and the lack of it regarding the passengers of MH17.

Dances with Bears
MH17 – Inadmissible Evidence For What Cannot Have Happened
John Helmer

John Helmer — MH17 – Dutch Prepare Missile Attack On Moscow

Fixing the "evidence."

This is the black hole the Dutch have created in their own investigation, but they are unable to fill it with “iron”, and they cannot explain how the alleged detonation of a Buk warhead could release so little recovered shrapnel; possibly none at all.

The upshot is that the world will likely never know for certain the cause and those responsible.

Dances with Bears
MH17 — Dutch Prepare Missile Attack On Moscow
John Helmer

Phil Butler — The Impossible Truth About MH17

The plot thickens. Is there no information forthcoming from the US and Russian intelligence services since that would reveal capabilities and weaknesses to adversaries?

New Eastern Outlook
The Impossible Truth About MH17

Phil Butler