On YouTube, The Britisher gives a good account about why the British Conservative Party has embraced liberal values; but he argues that some conservatism is still required to stop identity politics from running amok.
I think all societies will adopt more liberal values in time, because it makes sense- it's about being decent to and fair to people. But there are excessives, for sure, which need to be tempered.
Today not a single prominent politician who regards himself as conservative dares call for dismantling Social Security or Medicare. To the contrary, conservative politicians assure voters that they will “protect” these programs. Conservatives likewise fought the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. Although there is still some residual talk of repealing and replacing it, it appears that some form of the Act will remain in place. And just as they eventually accepted the once-despised Social Security and Medicare programs, conservatives very likely will come around to accepting some version of Obamacare.
Just what is it that conservatives want to conserve? One answer that’s often given is “freedom” – by which is usually meant “individual freedom.”
Well, if individual freedom is really important, those who call themselves conservative should be very pleased with the trajectory of the past century, because Americans today generally have more freedom and “rights” than those of earlier generations.
Consider life in 1930, for example – when nearly all Americans still regarded the US as a “great” country.
For one thing, employment and job opportunities were generally segregated and restricted by sex and race. Employment notices in newspapers appeared in separate sections, one for Men and another for Women. Women were effectively barred from a wide range of jobs.
There were no “gay rights.” Homosexual behavior was punished as a crime. Any suggestion that a woman might have the “right” to marry another woman, or a man another man, would have been regarded as offensive and absurd.
By law and custom, people of European ancestry could not marry persons of other races. In most states marriage between whites and blacks was a felony.
Abortion was not a “right”; it was a crime.
Americans could not buy groceries, tools or clothes on a Sunday. Stores across the country were closed on Sundays as an expression of respect for the Christian heritage and Christian sensibilities.
No one could legally order a glass of beer or enjoy a bottle of wine with a meal in a restaurant. The sale of alcoholic beverages was prohibited throughout the country.
How many Americans today who call themselves conservative would prefer life in the “great” America of 1930 to life in the “liberal” USA of our era? Is “freedom” really the most important thing that conservatives want to conserve?
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David Bowie was awesome and pushed the boundaries! But the world is always more complicated than it seems at first glance. David Bowie was painfully shy as a young man and couldn't go onstage without dressing up. He felt boring, and wasn't keen on his voice, and so hiding behind a persona really helped him.
As an adolescent, I was painfully shy, withdrawn. I didn't really have the nerve to sing my songs on stage, and nobody else was doing them. I decided to do them in disguise so that I didn't have to actually go through the humiliation of going on stage and being myself. David Bowie
David Bowie never discussed politics, but he did refuse a knighthood.
I think the lovely Richard Wolff got quite a surprise when he came to do a lecture at this university. He was suppose to be debating Jordon Peterson about Marxism, but Jordon wouldn't come for under $50,000. Richard Wolff asked for nothing except for his expenses to be paid.
Banned Adam and Eve commercialDavid Bowie was awesome and pushed the boundaries! But the world is always more complicated than it seems at first glance. David Bowie was painfully shy as a young man and couldn't go onstage without dressing up. He felt boring, and wasn't keen on his voice, and so hiding behind a persona really helped him.
As an adolescent, I was painfully shy, withdrawn. I didn't really have the nerve to sing my songs on stage, and nobody else was doing them. I decided to do them in disguise so that I didn't have to actually go through the humiliation of going on stage and being myself. David BowieDavid Bowie never discussed politics, but he did refuse a knighthood.
“Richard Wolff was supposed to be debating Jordon Peterson about Marxism, but Jordon wouldn't come for under $50,000.”
ReplyDeleteI wouldn’t sit through a Jordan Peterson speech for under $50,000.
Peterson is allowed to keep babbling because he has nothing to say except disjointed gibberish, “full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”
I do not intellectually agree or disagree with Peterson, just as I do not intellectually agree or disagree with a monkey chattering in a cage.
Both consist of meaningless sounds.
I did have some good videos by people who had taken Jordon Peterson's arguments apart, and showed that they have no substance. He sets up straw dolls and makes a song and dance about nothing. They showed you his techniques.
ReplyDeleteI might try to find these videos again, but there was some aspects about the videos that I didn't care for. The people who made then were all hard core, atheist liberals, and they spent a lot of time criticizing religeon, but this is not a position I take anymore. Although I'm not religeous, I do have much respect for spiritual values. I'm agnostic, but I believe in something. Atheism is a cold stark place to be.
I thought this was too crude to put out here, but it's the counter argument. It's pretty hard hitting and not very pleasant, but Steve Hughes raises some interesting points.
ReplyDeleteSteve Hughes - The "Lefty" Liberal
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G8OP8Rzi0r8&t=1199s
@ Kaivey:
ReplyDeleteSteve Hughes - The "Lefty" Liberal Mentality
Last year 127 migrants died in the southern part of my state, trying to cross the desert from Mexico. A few Americans leave food and water for them in the middle of the desert. This is illegal. Last Thursday a federal judge found four women guilty of this. Each woman faces a possible six months in federal prison, plus a $500 fine. Another member of their group faces a separate trial in connection with his Feb 2018 felony arrest on charges of harboring undocumented immigrants. Five other volunteers face unrelated charges for similar activities. Their trials are scheduled to begin in the next two months.
In the past I have talked with these people, and I asked them what they thought of Trump’s wall, plus Antifa, plus leftists in general. They called themselves conservatives. They said they did not oppose Trump’s wall, but until the wall was built, they would continue trying to keep migrants from dying in the desert. They said Antifa, was worthless thugs, and that twenty-something Social Justice Warriors, feminists, and militant LGBTQ dwarfs were selfish hate-filled assholes who were obsessed with rendering straight white males extinct.
Steve Hughes is referring to the latter sh*theads.
(I have separate complaints about right-wingers, who are just as stupid, but not violent.)
Those conservatives are honourable!
ReplyDeleteShe looked beautiful, Konrad, actually, a little bit like my mum too, I thought.
ReplyDeleteI get mixed up about it all:
I'm an arch anti-racist, but I dislike excessive immigration, I'm a liberal, but the extremes of identity politics disturb me.
I have some old fashioned conservative views, with a small c, on some things.
I never borrow money, except to buy a house (and I would borrow money to buy a car too, if I needed one for work).
I won't gamble.
If I can't afford something, I just save up for it. I don't drop litter.
I'm polite. I like to see people behaving respectively to each other.
I never liked any lazy people where I used to work, or people who didn't tidy up after themselves.
I didn't like people who stole things from work either (small stuff, like pens and paper, cans of spray, a few bolts are okay, but some people were gready).
I hated it when I walked into an engineering shop at work one morning during tea break at 9am and found 3 engineers watching live porn on TV - where I thought the world was coming to an end; that civil values were breaking down. They said if you pay money, she will take a few more clothes off, although they didn't pay anything. So, I'm not that kind of anything goes liberal.
Another guy at work told me how his 5 year old boy loved X-rated, adult horror films, like Driller Killer, and that disturbed me. Again, I thought the world was coming to an end. I won't watch anything like that.
I'm an arch anti-racist, but I dislike excessive immigration
ReplyDeleteSame here. Unlike us, today’s liberals are flaming racists against whites (especially white males) and they seek white extinction via unlimited immigration. They talk of “peace” while they make social war at home, and military war abroad. They demand “tolerance” while showing intolerance toward straight white non-Jewish males. They talk of “equality” while enacting hiring quotas to make sure that no while males can get jobs. They talk of “diversity,” which means no whites allowed.
By “whites” I mean everyone (white, black, or whatever) who fails to adopt the militant liberal white-bashing mind-set.
In the USA, one reason why college is so expensive is that colleges have become filled with diversity bureaucrats. At the University of California – Los Angeles (UCLA) the vice chancellor for equity, diversity, and inclusion is paid $450k per year (£349,400) which is far more than any faculty member is paid. This individual has nothing to do, since all conservatives and most whites have been purged from American colleges and universities.
All the corporate media outlets celebrate this attack on whites. People who complain about it on Facebook or Twitter are banned. Therefore it is tempting to conclude that whites are helpless. Yet they put Trump in office, and they will do so again. (I myself like Tulsi Gabbard.) And liberals will again be shocked and bewildered.
As for the rest of your comments, I am the same, item for item. I don’t gamble, take loans, show disrespect to others, etc.
Well, Konrad, I've just looked at some SJW's videos, and you're right, they're crazy. It's a shame because they are making it harder for the left. They're so angry.
ReplyDeletehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M9_cAtfyhec
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qJc_D7ufoTg
@ Kasivey:
ReplyDeleteYouTube purged the first video before I could watch it, as its madness would have given too much ammunition to right-wingers.
The second video concerns “fat shaming.”
I have no problem with morbidly obese people, since they have bodily and / or psychological disorders that I do not have. They are to be loved, not condemned.
What I condemn is regular overweight people’s self-centeredness and immaturity. We see this in the black woman speaking on the stage in that video. Rather than discipline themselves, or accept themselves, they militantly blame everything on the world around them, and they want revenge on the world. They constantly seek reasons to be “offended,” and to call everyone around them “hateful.”
The reality is that whether a woman is lovely or a bitch depends on her maturity. Mentally immature fat women think that men look down on them. Not true. Men just don’t like bitches. All men have met overweight women with maturity and wit. Such women are quite attractive because of their minds. When the man’s attraction becomes strong, such women look physically attractive too. When a man is truly in love, he wouldn’t change his fat sweetheart even if he had a genie from a lamp. He adores every detail about her.
Movie actor Clint Eastwood had an affair with the late movie actress Sondra Locke, who was genuinely in love with Eastwood. Mr. Eastwood was always ashamed of a gap he had between his two front teeth, so one day he had its fixed. This saddened Sondra Locke, who had come to love every detail about Eastwood.
We start out loving someone in spite of their faults, and end up loving them because of their “faults.”
WORST OF ALL are people who actually sit and listen to bitches, like the audience in that video, sitting as the furious black woman spews endless hate (because she hates herself and her life).
The first video works for me, so maybe it is deleted in the US, but not here yet.
ReplyDeleteYes, Konrad, I just went for a walk and i was thinking about it, and i do have a lot sympathy for young women who get depressed because of the perfect models they see in their magazines and on TV. It's part of the reason for anorexia. There's a lot of emphasis on perfection and achievement in our society, so people can suffer from Compare and Despair. I put out a video by Alain De Botton called, How Modern Life Can Make You Mentally Ill. Psychologists are developing therapies for this, but the SJW's are something else. They are in pain, but they are far too aggressive and turn everyone off. They need to deal with it inwardly. Then you grow and find peace.
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ReplyDeleteThe first video now works.
"Transgender Protesters in Toronto: Gender is Over"
I would feel sorry for these freaks if they are were not so hateful and militant. Most of them come from broken homes with drug addict mothers, plus absent or abusive fathers. Plus they are dealing with downward social mobility, and with the fact that they were not born physically attractive. To cope with their fear and their depression, they mutate into the entities seen in the video, but it does no good. They commit suicide at a rate far higher than any other group.
The freaks in the video seem to have a problem with Jordan Peterson, who I consider a moron.
Incidentally there is a savage war between [1] feminists and [2] trans-mutants like those in the video. Feminists resent male transexuals’ claim to know what it’s like to be “abused women.” They insist that trans “women” are not women.
In response, trans-mutants call feminists “TERFs” (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists).
Members of each side show up at speeches given by the other side and try to shout them down. It’s vicious. The anger in the air is almost palpable.
To learn more, enter the terms “terfs vs feminists” in the YouTube search box.
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Below is a video titled Traveling to the British Seaside in 1968. People didn’t realize how good they had it.
It’s outrageous how these videos have all been edited so that Britons were white, polite, and heterosexual. Where are all the angry blacks, Muslims, and freaks – i.e. the good people?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w7auXfqsqY
I've been looking at lots of those old videos of London, Konrad, they're interesting!
ReplyDeleteYes, they are not attractive, and life is hard that way, but life is about growing and moving on. That's what our mission in life, to find peace and tame the opposites.