Tuesday, September 13, 2011

David Graeber's response to Robert Murphy


Following my post of yesterday providing links, David Graeber responds at Naked Capitalism to Robert Murphy's post of September 1, Have Anthropologists Overturned Menger? and follow-up of September 8, Murphy Replies to David Graeber on Menger and Money



I responded to Prof. Murphy's September 9 post here.



6 comments:

wilwon32 said...

@Tom,

Your comments and the responses by the AE admirers seemed to confirm/ illustrate the futility of attempting to conduct a useful exchange. The idealogues of whatever stripe will always find an argument to avoid meaningful discussion/resolution.

I continue to argue that the only way to convince a thinking public regarding desirability of reframing the debate is to employ communication techniques involving visual tools employed by artists/ cartoonists/and similarly-talented individuals who are able to translate ideas into easily understandable animation/cartoons, comic strips, videos, and the like. Someone at Warren Mosler's site once mentioned Mark Fiore as a candidate; certainly, someone with such talent would be an asset.

Matt Franko said...

This is from David's post at NC: " If your neighbor doesn’t need your arrowheads right now, he probably will at some point in the future, and even if he won’t, you’re his neighbor—you will undoubtedly have something he wants, or be able to do some sort of favor for him, eventually. "

The young people have a new saying for this: "do me a solid". Im not sure if it is hipster or hiphop or some other sub-culture, Ive just picked up on it.

There is a cartoon that my 12 yr old showed me here
that was based on this kind of economy...

So if you want to be cool, the next time you need a favor that you are willing to return someday, just like they did 3,000 years ago, ask the other person "hey can you do me a solid?"...

Tom Hickey said...

Matt, the gift economy is still very much alive and well in the undefined ("we know who we are") and invisible (unless you know how ans where to look) DFH community and among those following the red path (Native American).

Women have kept it alive, too. The Gift Economy

Actually, the net exemplifies the gift economy and it is evident in the blogosphere. It's so invisible one can be in it and not even realize it. :)

Tom Hickey said...

wilwon32, I am afraid that some of those folks are pretty hopelessly lost in their heads.

Agree on presentation. It will happen.

Matt Franko said...

Tom,

Yeoman's work over there at Mises, sheeesh! Also, Ive been looking back thru the Scriptures and there is much that is congruent with what David presents here ("gift" economy, silver by the temple measure, etc) in the book of Genesis, I will try to compile some of it...

btw, I'm also picking up a fascinating quantitative cognitive deficiency among many outside of the MMT paradigm. This would have to be a very interesting phenomenon for a professional cognitive psychologist to study. Even Krugman has this deficiency imo...

Resp,

Tom Hickey said...

Those people are delusional, childish, and a rude bunch to boot. Leave them to stew in their own willful ignorance and denial that their is a world out there and that it moves on.