Best line: "I would guess that already by now as I am writing this various people in The New York Times, CNN, the US intelligence community, and former officials of the Obama administration, are busy phoning their lawyers."
We're about to find out what getting even means to Trump.
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Well we know the offsetting transaction for buzzing a US Destroyer is Crimea....
There will be no deal with Russia, and especially no grand bargain. The Russian leadership well knows that the US is not coherent enough to be to able to keep its word. No sense making deals under such conditions.
There is nothing that Trump can do to overcome this short of wholesale firing and replacement in the deep state, inducing the intel services and military, and this unlikely to happen.
But even then, it is certain that Russia understands that the next US president will likely just reverse course.
Mercouris: As Trump himself all but says – and as the FBI investigators undertaking them surely know – those investigations are a complete waste of time, and will lead nowhere, because no-one has identified a crime for anyone to investigate.
Flynn giving incomplete information to the FBI -- does that count as perjury?
Mercouris:I would guess that already by now as I am writing this various people in The New York Times, CNN, the US intelligence community, and former officials of the Obama administration, are busy phoning their lawyers.
I amn not sure which press conference Mercouris watched, but the only ones panicking right now are Republicans.
PS: I keep forgetting to use the "preview" button :(
Flynn giving incomplete information to the FBI -- does that count as perjury?
What Flynn said to the Russian ambassador and what he told the FBI is unknown. The FBI has given no indication that Flynn attempted to mislead them.
The FBI interviewers believed Flynn was cooperative and provided truthful answers. Although Flynn didn't remember all of what he talked about, they don't believe he was intentionally misleading them, the officials say.
CNN
What Flynn said to the Russian ambassador and what he told the FBI is unknown. The FBI has given no indication that Flynn attempted to mislead them.
The intelligence official who has personally seen the transcripts told Mary Louise they contained "no evidence" of criminal wrongdoing, although the official said it can't be definitively ruled out.
The official also said there was "absolutely nothing" in the transcripts that suggests Flynn was acting under instructions "or that the trail leads higher."
"I don't think [Flynn] knew he was doing anything wrong," the official said. "Flynn talked about sanctions, but no specific promises were made. Flynn was speaking more in general 'maybe we'll take a look at this going forward' terms."
Intelligence Official: Transcripts Of Flynn's Calls Don't Show Criminal Wrongdoing
So far this is all based on rumor and it is being reported in a way to smear Flynn, with the real target being Trump.
Atty Joe sez it would be a piece of cake:
https://twitter.com/billstill/status/832381557805563904
I'd have to assume that whoever either works FOR or WITH the leaker knows who the leaker is and is dropping dime....
Former prosecutor Jeff Sessions will be on the case.
The dems are trying to 'drop Sessions'
Kangaroo court is now in Session....
The dems are trying to 'drop Sessions'
Good luck with that. The Dems have zero political leverage since they became serial losers.
Trump's press conference was a tour de force. I was mesmerized. Fucking LOVED it. I knew the next four years were going to be great; reason why I re-upped the MSM on Cable.
And to all of you here who hate him, think he's destroying America, and is The-Boor-In-Chief, talk to me in four years.
POI-fecktly willing to be proven wrong and laughed at. I don't have a crystal ball. But he certainly has energized the political discourse in this country, which like negative press has its value as much as positive stuff. The longer the Snowflakes and tenured profs cry over the election of Trump, the more they will come across as out-of-touch, and eventually 'non-patriotic'. The bloodless American revolution happened in 2016, as predicted by many. I live in Fly-By-Country. Trump is loved, but no one will talk about it. Wasn't it Tom who remarked that there's a subcurrent or silent majority that is still being ignored by the cognoscenti in DC? Buy popcorn.
When I worked in DC as a consultant, i quickly discovered that it was the worker bees who run things. The career civil servants that no one knows about. They just overplayed their hand with the leaks. Should Trump get to the bottom of it, there could be a purge like Jimmy Carter's summary firing of 4,000 CIA agents in 1978, which shocked the shit out of that agency and terrified it.
MRW, Trump is not a populist; he just plays one on the stump.
MRW, I don't think that the leakers were "worker bees," and from what I can tell no one else does either. Most of the speculation is that the operation was run by John Brennan.
How do you know? Proclamation?
MRW, Trump is not a populist; he just plays one on the stump.
He is doing a pretty good job of it. His base is over the moon and that is about 40% of the US electorate. These people are energized.
Comment at February 16, 2017 at 11:05 PM directed to lastgeek.
MRW, I don't think that the leakers were "worker bees," . . . . Most of the speculation is that the operation was run by John Brennan. I could believe that. But that's who I mean by worker bees. I worked in intelligence.
@ MRW
Sorry for the confusion by including you in the reference, which was a quote of lastgreek.
Not high end, but intelligence, nonetheless. I programmed their systems.
I knew some of the "workers bees." They were not upper level management types and especially not political appointees. They are the career analysts.
Even their families don't know who the operatives and spies are.
How do you know? Proclamation?
Actions.
lastgreek said...
How do you know? Proclamation? Actions. February 16, 2017 at 11:14 PMYou don't know their actions. You just know what they report.
BIG MO-FO' DIFFERENCE.
I trained the NSA in one of their most sensitive systems. I was an outside consultant, hired to provide plausible deniability. Anyone who thinks the NSA hasn't recorded EVERY SINGLE CALL made in the USA since 1980 is naive. Recorded every damn call. Call record data--"metadata bullshit" like who you called and how long you were on it--is fucking naive. Klein in SF AT&T only revealed the tip of the iceberg in 2007. Too low-down the tele-pole to know what he uncovered.
I taught them, and I trained them. PERIOD.
"I trained the NSA in one of their most sensitive systems. I was an outside consultant, hired to provide plausible deniability. Anyone who thinks the NSA hasn't recorded EVERY SINGLE CALL made in the USA since 1980 is naive. Recorded every damn call. Call record data--"metadata bullshit" like who you called and how long you were on it--is fucking naive. Klein in SF AT&T only revealed the tip of the iceberg in 2007. Too low-down the tele-pole to know what he uncovered."
I just can't be shocked anymore, but I believe this and will take your word for it. I have my disagreements on Trump, but on this, yeah, there's literally no bottom to how low the government of the USA can sink. The Israel stuff shouldn't be any surprise either.
@Penguin pop,
There were the equivalent of five football-fields (MIGHT BE MORE) per level at NSA headquarters per level in Mryland until they built the Utah Centre. When they built the Utah center, they used a different hologram drive center to carry them thru to the next century. THE PREVIOUS catchment allowed the equivalent of a box of Kodak slides that could catch the entirety of the Library of Congress in a box of 24 slides. The current catchment is 10^12. That's trillion by comparison.
MRW: I don't know who you are but I agree with every word you said about the situation. Keep it up.
There were the equivalent of five football-fields...per level at NSA headquarters per level should have read There were the equivalent of five football-fields...per subterranean level at NSA headquarters per level. I can't remember the exact number of levels there were underneath NSA headquarters. Five? Six? Seven? More? But the fields were massive. There were 300-400 acres at headquarters in Maryland (more?), which HQ used it to situate their drive center for decades. Few know about this.
MRW I am going to assume what your saying is true. But even if it is, all of that tech is built off the surplus created by workers in the past. Those jobs are not coming back. Trump is not going to make America great again. It is over. The US is going down, and Trump and the crew are just sysmptoms of the acceleration of that decline.
Now I could be wrong. He could be playing the jester. But cmon. Rick Perry? Betsy Devos?J B Sessions? Steven Miller? Shall I go on?
When the working class of this country stops aligning itself with billionaires, you will see a president who will MAGA. Until then, expect Americas going out of business sale to continue.
One more thing. Trump loves the Patriots, and Bill Belicheck is a big fan. I'm from NE so I have followed this pretty closely. Examine DJT and Belicheck, they couldn't be any more different in their managerial styles, and record of success. One quick example, Belicheck only allows one voice to broadcast information to the media: his. Everyone else can talk to the media, but they cannot say anything outside of cliches and toned down small talk. If they get out of line, he crushes them quickly and smoothly.
Bottom line. Close the leaks. Fire Spicer. Have a unified, respectful message to the press, but give them nothing you don't want them to run with.
If he does this, he could turn it around a bit.
Just disband the intelligence agencies. Sack the whole lot of them. Better yet, eliminate their budget. No more secrets, no more deceptions and lies, such an approach leads to wasted resources, paranoia and war crimes.
Define what the objectives of the military will be, and limit their operations accordingly. Reinstate the draft. Having a military means you may have to serve in it, just as you may have to serve in a jury.
These changes will never be implemented by an elite, or their sycophants. There is no substitute for a grassroots political movement. As long as "democracy" involves "representatives", those reps have to be kept in a state of fear. Politicians do not regulate themselves.
MRW,
"all you heaving dominionists need to examine your idiotic patriotism. You're insane."
Its more than the 'dominionists' its the entire OT "covenant" oriented cohort which is like all 50 or 60 million Evangelicals and many more...
That is not going away any time soon ... but Trump can get his material systems reforms implemented even without taking that on... maybe get to "peace and security" (1 Thess. 5)
What might be confused is that Trump is probably looking at Israel as the vassal vice a "partner", etc which is how those insane dominionists look at it....
If we end up taking down Iran it will be for US purposes NOT as some sort of nod to Israel... iow US is the role of suzerain and Israel (like Judea of old) is in the role of the vassal...
If we end up taking down Iran it will be for US purposes NOT as some sort of nod to Israel...
Why would you want to take down a Iran?
like Judea of old. Since the Hebrew language did not have a "J" in their language until the 16th C, how old is old?
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