Tuesday, April 25, 2017

Reuters — U.S. Announces New Tariffs on Canadian Lumber After Trade Spat Over Dairy Farmers


MAGA.

Fortune
U.S. Announces New Tariffs on Canadian Lumber After Trade Spat Over Dairy Farmers
Reuters

17 comments:

Bob said...

The US softwood lumber lobby has lost none of its bite. This means you get to pay more money for an inferior product. Congratulations!

Penguin pop said...

Bob, it's highway robbery, but again, facts don't matter anymore. The MAGA cultists have their own set of alternative "facts" (religion and cult) they cling to no matter what. Faith-based BS with them.

Matt Franko said...

"Get even"

Ryan Harris said...

You don't pluck the bird to kill it, but start by clipping the wings so it can't fly away and you can fatten it up and eat it later.

When it comes to globalists, we don't want to turn back free markets, free immigration, free speech, free capital entirely. A few small clips here and there and that bird stops flying. And that's good enough, rather than taking liberalism to the logical extreme, we'll have a few places where less is more.

This is a long game and the benefits enormous to tearing down the economic quackery of orthodoxy, piece by piece, slowly. Designing elegant systems didn't make everyone rich they made everyone in our system poor and everyone outside rich. Look at global poverty numbers, it was a resounding victory for everyone not us. We can have both. They do well, and we do well.

Where you see robbery, we see leadership that ensures that people are not subservient to an unjust system of economic ideology and models. Unpredictable compromises prevent cheating in complex systems and make it harder to game systems. A predictable system, a model, encourages cheating.

Matt Franko said...

Ryan, now the economists are going to start saying "there's a surplus of lumber in Canada! "Meanwhile they have trees coming out of their ass all over the place up there all the time

Tom Hickey said...

Ha ha. Canadian lumber now headed to China instead of the US.

Ryan Harris said...

China needs lumber. US needs jobs. = Fair trade. Our government is out of munnie. Theirs is out of *real* resources. As Matt says, we have surpluses in nearly all resources.

MRW said...

And Canada has hardwoods that are more plentiful than they are down here. The Chinese market is closer to British Columbia than the US is. All they have to do is deliver to the Port of Vancouver, within their own province. Dockers and truckers get work. Quebec can get to the St. Lawrence Seaway within their province and onto Europe. I believe Canada had tariffs on their lumber when the US was logging up a storm. Then the enviros stopped it. So the US went back to Canada for supplies.

Six said...

Apparently the enviros are forcing the US timber industry to export record amounts timber.

https://www.fas.usda.gov/data/money-does-grow-trees-us-forest-product-exports-set-record

Matthew Franko said...

No what sick China does is they pull into Vancouver with a factory-slave ship, load up on logs, take them out to international waters and float around for a while while the slaves mill the logs to finish lumber and then go back in to Seattle and sell them for USDs into the US market....

Zombies gotta zombie....

Bob said...

The never-ending story...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–United_States_softwood_lumber_dispute

MRW said...

No what sick China does is they pull into Vancouver with a factory-slave ship, load up on logs, take them out to international waters and float around for a while while the slaves mill the logs to finish lumber and then go back in to Seattle and sell them for USDs into the US market....

Why? Doesn’t make sense. Gotta link?

MRW said...

Matt, the logs are milled before they reach the Port of Vancouver. That's why they call it lumber.

Matt Franko said...

http://www.futureworld.org/PublicZone/MindBullets/MindBulletsDetails.aspx?MindBulletID=324

It is a completely sicko USD zombie nation....

MRW said...

Thanks, Matt. Knew nothing about this. It's not sicko from the Chinese POV. They're aggressive little buggers, aren't they. We're the ones who are slacking in info and direction.

Bob said...

Libertarian paradise *rolleyes*

Matt Franko said...

And MRW don't forget the nice radioactive drywall they sold us when Rummie bought out all of our domestic (non radioactive) inventory and shipped it to Iraq and Afghanistan.... that was a real sweet deal....