Lavrov added this uncharacteristically blunt statement: “We are asked what Russia is doing on the border with Ukraine. The answer is very simple – we live here, this is our country. But what the United States is doing via its warships and troops, which are constantly organising some kind of events in Ukraine under the auspices of NATO, thousands of kilometres from America’s own territory – this question still remains unanswered.” ...
It is undeniably evident at this time that the West, which is to say NATO and its members and partners – the U.S., Canada and every European country except for Russia and Cyrus – have arrayed themselves against the small Donbass republics and Russia. There’s been much talk of a Sarajevo moment of the sort that triggered World War I. What the current situation resembles is what followed the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo in 1914: the ultimatum issued by Austria-Hungary to Serbia. The ultimatum was announced on July 23; five days later the first world war began....
Like Henry Kissinger said.
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Russia, Cyprus... and Greece (they’re just politically circumspect about it )
Russia, Cyprus... and Greece (they’re just politically circumspect about it )
Anyone here wants to hazard a guess as to what exactly is so damn strategically important about Ukraine?
Note: you can’t say it’s all about killing Russians a la Brzezinski.
They can stir up trouble with Russia. Never let a blood feud go to waste.
Anyone here wants to hazard a guess as to what exactly is so damn strategically important about Ukraine?
I've explained this several times at least over the past couple of years.
The plan involved gaining control of the Middle East, then Central Asia, while advancing NATO to Russia's borders. effectively surrounding it other than for China, which is the real objective. But first, Russia has to be taken control of so as to be able to completely surround China on the east and West.
Russia and Chia would be broken apart into constituent states, none of which would ever be large and powerful enough able to challenge the West and its "allies," and the US would make sure of that.
Then the US can take control of the world, impose its rules empire (neoliberalism, neo-imperialism, and neocolonialism with the US as the new "Rome." The British Empire at its height would look puny in comparison.
The stakes could not be higher — permanent world domination for the US elite, its compradors in vassal states and colonies. untold power and wealth. Why leave that one the table?
This is the ultimate in hubris, of course, challenging even the gods.
Now the question is will Russia and China go proxy for Nemesis?
"Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad" (Wikipedia)
The ancient Greeks had this figured out already.
Anyone here wants to hazard a guess as to what exactly is so damn strategically important about Ukraine?
I should add here that the US-staged coup in Ukraine was designed not only to take NATO to the border of Russia but also to take Crimea and the naval base at Sevastopol, which would deprive Russia of its only sea base other than the on the Baltic Sea and Arctic. (The US is now also mounting an Arctic military capability.)
The US planners were outraged at Putin for snatching Crimea from their grasp at the last minute, adding insult to his saving Russia from liberal depredation after the collapse of the USSR. So Putin is the devil.
BTW, this is nothing new. The Europeans have been trying this this since the days of Napoleon. It played a key role in WWI and also WWII and aftermath. No one that has read history or studies military strategy and geopolitics would be surprised that this. Books have been written on it. It is no secret. I have explained all this previously here.
It's grown-ups in years only acting out a deadly game of king of the mountain.
Washington is not responsible for what Ukraine is doing. They are acting upon their own volition. If there was pro-Russian sentiment in that country, it has been rooted out; the rest having fled to Donbass.
Not a snowball's chance in hell of neutering Russia, so it's unlikely that "plan" will ever play out. That doesn't stop Tom from banging on about it, like Chicken Little.
Are we supposed to piss ourselves because the Biden regime is potentially that stupid?
More likely war scenario is a Slavic blood feud, involving the US as arms supplier and cheerleader. German public may look on disapprovingly, but in the end, they still need gas. After XX thousand dead, Ukraine should come to its senses.
“ "Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad"
Well they represented the first human to make the adjustment that then made them famous as “theoi” or “placers”...
So this would drive a Socratic dogmatist crazy seeing this...
Iow The Socratic were advocates of dogmatic adherence to their thesis and never make any adjustment (we still see this today in Liberal Art degree graduates) ... so to see another cohort of people (tektons) make adjustments in face of failure and then go on to be immortalized as “gods” (placers) with their own temples (naos, locus of information) would tend to drive the Socratic cohort mad...
It’s same in reverse today you have all these Socratic dogmatists going all around saying “they’re printing money!” and “we’re out of money!” and they never make an adjustment even in the face of empirical evidence that those theses are false ... for decades and decades...
So then it can drive a qualified technologist mad... or it’s maddening to watch...
“Whom the morons would destroy they first make mad”...
“ The US planners were outraged at Putin for snatching Crimea”
Yo, Russia has MAJOR investment there...
Yeah LOL the OBiden administration was “outraged” after the one side (Ukraine) started paying bribes...
And this is textbook Tom 101:
“ The US planners were outraged ”
Yeah LOL when the corrupt Democrats do it it’s “”the US!” when Gop does it it’s “the GOP!”...
Not much ability for discrimination or “use the narrow gate” trained via Jesuit methodology..
Tom, the Ukraine (add now even the Middle East) is so 20th century. The big focus is South-East Asia. If I am not mistaken, you had posted some articles on this here.
How big is the focus? Well, the now newly-named Indo-Pacific Command controls over half of the US military. Hell, I think they even have their own State Department ;)
Also, Tom... I think it was the other way around -- the 90%-plus people of Crime, who,btw, identify as Russian or pro-Russian, "snatched" Russia ;)
90% of the population of Crimea is not ethnic Russian. How many non-Russians there identify with Russia rather than Ukraine, I don't know. The vote to join Russia was 97% of those participating, but the opposition boycotted the election, which is a reason that the West is rejecting the vote. (Same in some other counties' elections where the US is pursuing regime change. It's a tactic that is part of a strategy aka "playbook for regime change.")
Boycotting the vote sounds like an admission of weakness. Otherwise, why not just win the election and be done with it?
The drill goes this way. The opposition knows it doesn't have the numbers to win, so it boycotts the election, then claims the election was rigged, and runs to the US to put them in power.
Ironically, something like this happened in the recent elections in the US, with DJT still claiming he actually won in 2020 and that the election was rigged against him. The missing element is the boycott. It was a close election as it was, so the charge that the election was tainted is credible.
It happened in the previous election too, when the Democrats claimed that Russia had influenced the election in Trump's favor in 2016, and that Trump had colluded with Russia on this.
So now many Democrats still believe that HRC won in 2016, and many Republicans still believe that Trump won in 2020.
Sounds like the corollary of the Democrats last election
It wasn’t a boycott the Democrats halted the election on Election Day and took a week to stuff the ballot boxes past the legal date of voting under the cover of a pandemic policy...
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