Wednesday, August 6, 2014

Peter Haisenko — Shocking Analysis of the ‘Shooting Down’ of Malaysian MH17

I recommend to click on the little picture to the right. You can download this photo as a PDF in good resolution. This is necessary, because that will allow you understand what I am describing here. The facts speak clear and loud and are beyond the realm of speculation: The cockpit shows traces of shelling! You can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likeley that of a 30 millimeter caliber projectile. The edge of the other, the larger and slightly frayed exit holes showing shreds of metal pointing produced by the same caliber projectiles. Moreover, it is evident that at these exit holes of the outer layer of the double aluminum reinforced structure are shredded or bent – outwardly! Furthermore, minor cuts can be seen, all bent outward, which indicate that shrapnel had forcefull exited through the outer skin from the inside of the cockpit. The open rivets are are also bent outward.
Anderwelt Online July 30, 2014
Shocking Analysis of the ‘Shooting Down’ of Malaysian MH17
Peter Haisenko
(h/t Lambert Strether at Naked Capitalism)

7 comments:

PeterP said...

An example of the left being what Lenin called "useful idiots". Typical fallacy: the US hovt is bad so its opponent must be "good". If there was a shred of credibility in these crackpot theories Putin and his cronies would be all over this, they had access to the wreckage.

Anonymous said...

I have never heard of this 30 mm anti tank ammunition. 30 mm is not such a large round that It cannot be fired by a soldier omm ground. Yet I have never seen It done in any of the videos I have watched over the years about tanks being taken out. I am by no means an expert but fast search on google turned up nothing.

My guess is, It is a hoax.

Ryan Harris said...


In time, the international investigators on the ground will have a chance to analyze all the wreckage and present a credible report. Until then, there will be lots of theories by lots of people with axes to grind.

Tom Hickey said...

Right, but....

It remains to be seen how objective an investigation is forthcoming. Based on previous investigations, I don't have great hopes for transparency and objectivity. Too much at stake for the various states and intelligence services involved.

Russia and the US need make their satellite photos available publicly. (Russia has released some, the US not.) The Ukrainians need to make available the conversation between the ground and the aircraft. The existence of these is common knowledge and there is no justification I can see for not releasing them and testing the evidence for tampering.

As far as the holes in the aircraft, that should be fairly easy to establish if the plane wreckage was no tampered with.

I doubt that a satisfyingly clear picture will ever emerge.

Tom Hickey said...

"SU-25 is equipped with a double-barreled 30-mm gun, type GSh-302 / "

See Pravda English Aug 8, 2014, MH-17: Will the truth ever be known?

The fighters allegedly involved were identified as Russian SU-25 in the service of the Ukraine.

Tom Hickey said...

This is smelling to me a lot like the rush to judgement — and war over Saddam being involved in 9/11 and having WMD, which Dick Cheney is still claiming as fact.

As then, it is seems that the intelligence and policy are fixed, and the propaganda is so intense that the public seems to be falling for the same old trick.

And when we ask, Cui bono, it isn't either the Ukraine insurgents or Russia, No one is claiming anymore that Russia was directly involved, as we initially claimed or insinuated. ("Putin did it.") Nor did insurgents have a motive. If they were responsible it would have been the result of a tragic mistake. So why all the rush on the part of the US and UK to blame Putin and impose sanctions before at least the result of a transparent and objective investigation by say, the UN.

Rather, both the Ukraine usurpers and the neoliberal West stands to gain from a flag flag. And one wonders why the black boxes ended up in the hands of the UK, with Cameron calling for Putin's head along with Obama from the get-go?

There will be no transparent and objective investigation and these questions would be brought up by the neoliberals in Washington and London who are fixed on the outcome.

Tom Hickey said...

Correction. Pravda date above should be Aug 4, not 8. Sorry.