Sunday, September 5, 2021

New Zealand scientists say UK’s ‘awful experiment’ on Covid will threaten the country

 ‘If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity, you would do exactly what they’re doing’


The UK's dangerous and cavalier experiment. 


University of Auckland microbiologist Siouxsie Wiles told Newsroom: “The question is, how much worse is Delta going to get?

“They are running a really quite awful experiment.”

Jemma Geoghegan, an evolutionary virologist at the University of Otago, expressed concern that just over half of the UK adult population has been vaccinated and that this could encourage new vaccine resistant variants to be produced.

She told Newsroom: “If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity, you would do exactly what they’re doing.

“You’re basically providing a training ground for the virus to overcome those selection pressures. You’re allowing the virus to continue to spread.

“With this moderately immune population and with the Delta variant that has an R0 that’s estimated to be probably five or six, you need a threshold to be much, much, much higher than they currently have.”


The Independent


New Zealand scientists say UK’s ‘awful experiment’ on Covid will threaten the country

7 comments:

Ahmed Fares said...

We're running the same experiment here in Alberta.

Canada's western provinces are largely driving the country's fourth wave of COVID-19 cases, and physicians are now raising the alarm — saying lax and late public health measures helped spark a rise in serious infections that's already putting pressure on hospitals and impacting patient care.

In British Columbia, Alberta and Saskatchewan, infection rates are high above the country's average and far beyond every province to the east, including Ontario, whose population is larger than all three westernmost provinces combined.

The rate of cases in the last seven days in B.C. was 93 per 100,000 people as of Aug. 30, federal data shows, with Alberta's rate at 159 and Saskatchewan's at 135 — with no province to the east hitting more than 43.

In terms of raw case growth, Alberta currently has the most new infections in the country, with more than 7,000 cases reported in one week.


As an aside, we've vaccinated everyone that wants to be vaccinated. The rest will have to try their luck with natural immunity, that is, assuming they survive. We currently have over a thousand cases a day. A recent model puts the coming peak at 17,000 cases a day. Our ICU capacity is currently at 95%.

Have a look at the chart halfway down the page of Canada's various provinces (that's us at the far left... Yay!, we're number one!):

Western provinces driving Canada's 4th COVID-19 wave as physicians warn cases 'out of control'

Unknown said...

https://www.umms.org/coronavirus/covid-vaccine/facts/immunity

Peter Pan said...

April 22, 2021
A majority of uninfected adults show preexisting antibody reactivity against SARS-CoV-2

July 20, 2021
Longitudinal analysis shows durable and broad immune memory after SARS-CoV-2 infection with persisting antibody responses and memory B and T cells

August 25, 2021 - preprint
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections

Peter Pan said...

Alberta Vaccination Data
SuperNova Scotia Vaccination Data

Alberta Vaccinations By Age Group
50-59 74.8%
60-69 84.0%
70-79 89.3%
80+ 87.9%

Nova Scotia Vaccinations By Age Group
50-59 81.9%
60-69 90.7%
70-79 95.3%
80+ 94.6%

Vaccine brands appear comparable between these provinces. Pfizer/BioTech is most used.

Excluding the effect of geography, trade and travel patterns, Alberta is Nova Scotia's future.

NeilW said...

Since none of the vaccines are sterilising and they are poor at preventing transmission there is nothing you can do about evolution anyway.

SARS-2 is endemic in the world now and we have to stop hiding away from it. It's time for those who want to cower in fear to start paying the cost of their unnatural anxiety and not everybody else.

Matt Franko said...

Amen Neil…

Too much human trafficking of turd worlders into the north… where we northern natives have well established immunity to viruses…

I had it it was like an average fluish head cold … I’ve lived my whole life in the north… had these virus infections a million times..

lastgreek said...

No it's not. You got it backwards... again.