Tuesday, December 6, 2016

Material Incompetent Left


More material systems textbook incompetency 101 on display here, President Obama:

"He says he is going to bring jobs back... well how are you going to do that? what are you going to do? There is no answer to it...there is no magic wand..."

He is not lying as part of the vast "neo-liberal conspiracy!", he literally has no idea how to do this.




13 comments:

John said...

Obama and the Dems are on the slightly competent right. The current Reps, escapees from lockdown penitentiaries and lunatic asylums, don't like old-fashioned Republican-style politics and government like Obama's.

Ignacio said...

The election cycle is over Matt, you can calm down now.

John said...

Rejoinder to the tribal GOP knuckle dragging sadists in Congress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4nSLMC-VNI

Matthew Franko said...

I didnt say anything like this during the election... I stayed out of it...

NOW we have some contrast to look at with the Trump win so we can see competency vs. incompetency in action.... again wrt material systems...

Left is just not qualified for positions of rule... dont have the training in material systems...

Matthew Franko said...

John all you have here are figures of speech... NOT GOOD....

Can we look at some objective data?

Trump got Carrier to commit to save 1,000 jobs and communicated to them (and others) what the new terms of trade with the US are...

ie competency...

Matthew Franko said...

Ignacio,

The Gender Studies and Arts & Humanities majors on the left are simply not qualified...

Matthew Franko said...

Here is Bill from that new movie:

"the single mother with two kids that he befriends in the job centre and who ends up in prostitution to support her kids because she has been sanctioned by one of the sociopaths in the job centre for being late to an interview. She is new to the region and became lost on her way to the interview."

I will GUARANTEE that the person who imposed the sanction here is a lefty... G-U-A-R-A-N-T-E-E-D .... #lockit....

John said...

Matt, we'll assess Trump in four years and see how he's done.

As for the moderate GOPhers who go by the name Democrats, at every turn they're blocked by the Republicans. So it isn't right to judge them for not getting much done. If Obama had said to the GOPhers, I'll do whatever YOU want, they would have said NO. That's the truth. The GOPhers are not a party of opposition. They're a party of NO.

Carrier? You want to put Carrier on the score card for the GOPhers, fine. The Dems can put on their score card GM, Ford, Chrysler, GE and all the other huge companies that would have one to the wall had it not been for their intervention. Yeah, and they got Bin Laden.

And I say this as an anti-Democrat and for a long time supporter of Trump, only to realize that there's something seriously wrong with the man.

Here's the thing that supporters of the GOPhers don't want to accept, for eight years the Dems have been trying to stimulate the economy and do something about unemployment, like any normal political party in the world, but the GOPhers said NO. The Dems infrastructure programme was unacceptable. They said, you guessed it, NO. Now, Trump and the GOPhers are going to pass a half-decent infrastructure programme that may employ who knows how many hundreds of thousands of unemployed Americans, but wouldn't support it when the Dems proposed it.

Think about that. The GOPhers have allowed millions of their own citizens to rot and the economy to weaken because the Dems wanted to pass pretty much the same stimulus programme that they are now going to pass. That's downright evil: millions unnecessarily out of work, hardworking people have lost their homes, families have broken up, honest people have turned to drugs, prostitution and crime, and all because the Dems proposed it. And the "conservatives" and the "Christian" right watched while families were destroyed and people's lives were made hell through drugs and prostitution. Apparently, doing anything for keeping families together is anti-conservative. The GOPhers lost the plot a long time ago, and so those weren't "figures of speech" but truth with a touch of hyperbole.






Matthew Franko said...

They are libertarians John... you have right-libertarians and left-libertarians...

and yes Trump might have some things seriously wrong with him socially... but you cannot say the guy doesnt understand material systems for crying out loud he is a multi-billionaire and has premier Real Estate holdings that his firm developed and has been doing this for decades...

Look at the video right at the start Obama says: "people who lost their jobs because a plant went down to Mexico..."

This guy LITERALLY thinks that plants can grow feet and can "go to Mexico"... this is what he says here he's incompetent ... where Trump would say "Carrier is proposing to move their plant to Mexico" which is CORRECT and competent...

Look... Obama has never been trained in any of this...

You are being WAAAAAAY too hard on the Democrats here.... look lets say as part of this some inner city school is built and will have a positive effect on the community... you get Trump to BUILD it.... but when the day of the dedication comes and you need to point out the non-material impacts that material system is going to have on the community, THEN you get Obama to give the speech at the dedication which Trump wouldnt be able to even address such a thing and could probably care less about he is moving on to the next school to be built...

You would say: "ohhhh Mr Trump! what a great school this is and the community will prosper because the children will ... blah blah...." Trump would be thinking "who gives a fuck about any of that shit?...."

Matthew Franko said...

What do you think that if we just all sit around the campfire singing kumba-ya that all of a sudden our material systems will magically appear and function well???

this is absurd... there are people who are properly trained in material systems (ie they never sang kumba-ya they were too busy being trained in material systems) and those people make it happen...

Matthew Franko said...

And PS the Paul Ryan people arent in that group either....

John said...

Matt, I couldn't care less who rebuilds America and helps the American working class. If it's Trump, good on him. If it's the GOPhers, good on them. But we know what the ideology of the GOPhers is: for instance, they'd like to do away with state pensions, medicare, medicaid and entitlements. This is sadistic and stupid. What do they want, another Great Depression?

What I want to know is what kind of political party has the GOP descended into if they knowingly and willingly consign millions of their own citizens (many of them Reps and even "conservative" Republicans) to penury and oblivion, when it was in their gift to help pass a stimulus package? What kind of party does that to their own country because a guy from the other team has got the big job? This isn't the Red Sox versus the Yankees, and the rivalry hurts no one.

As for Obama, what he was using was a "figure of speech"! In the same way, some one might say about a car "great wheels", most people would say that a plant went down to Mexico! What do you want to do, ban all informal and descriptivist language and demand everyone, at all times, speaks in formal prescriptivist grammatical English? Many of the GOPhers wouldn't be allowed to say anything.

Calgacus said...

Matt & John:

but you cannot say the guy doesnt understand material systems

Have you seen Hyman Minsky's old (of course) paper that describes Trump's business strategy as a good example of its kind, crazy like a fox iirc? Or has it been posted here? Will dig it up if people are interested and can't find it.