Thursday, May 3, 2018

Off-Guardian - US Court Finds Iran Liable for 9/11

Cloud Cuckoo land!
A US court has just handed down the verdict that the Islamic Republic of Iran owes the families of those who died on 11th September 2001 6 billion dollars in damages.
It behooves us to point out that no one, anywhere, ever accused Iran of being behind the 9/11 attacks for over a decade afterwards. The attempt to shift the blame to Iran has been a slow developing situation. The idea was first floated by James Woolsey, former head of the CIA, in 2015.
The official position of the United States government is that 19 people (15 Saudi Arabians, 2 Egyptians, 2 Emiratis and a Lebanese man) hijacked the planes and flew them into their targets. Whether or not you subscribe to this view, the introduction of Iran as some kind accomplice is a massive contradiction. One that makes very little sense.
This isn’t the first time a civil case has attempted to attribute blame for 9/11. A similar civil case was brought against Saddam Hussein, during the build up to the US invasion of Iraq in 2003. Hopefully this verdict doesn’t presage yet another war in the Middle East.

22 comments:

Matt Franko said...

All of this “death to America!” stuff goes back to Iran... first acting as Soviet agents in the Cold War...

Noah Way said...

Yo, Einstein. Look up Operation Ajax.

Unknown said...

Matt,

All across South Asia, including Iran, "Death to ...." is a common colloquialism utilized to express displeasure at favorite villains including political leaders, corporate executives and countries with "unfavored status", and is generally considered to be an equivalent to a "FU" in the US. Know this from my personal experience in South Asia.

Konrad said...

All of this “Death to America!” stuff is a reaction to blood-soaked American imperialism.

Iran and Iraq were officially neutral During WW II. Therefore, in order to steal the oil, the British savagely invaded and occupied Iraq on 2 May 1941 (“Operation Sabine”) and then savagely invaded and occupied Iran (“Operation Countenance”) on 17 Sep 1941 -- at which point the British installed their puppet dictator Mohammad Reza Pahlavi (aka the Shah).

The shah’s brutality made him so unpopular that by 1953 he was obliged to flee to Rome, where he spent most of his time drinking in nightclubs.

Meanwhile Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh nationalized Iran’s oil. Therefore the CIA got rid of Mosaddegh in a coup ("Operation Ajax") and reinstalled the shah as puppet dictator for the USA.

And yet some people call Iran a “Soviet agent.”

Incidentally, I notice how U.S. liberals today believe all the lies about Russia and Syria, but they are skeptical concerning the lies about Iran. Conservatives, meanwhile, believe all the lies about Iran, but are skeptical concerning the lies about Russia and Syria.

Both sides (liberals and conservatives) call you a “traitor” and a “conspiracy theorist” and a "Russian agent" if you question war and imperialism.

Matt Franko said...

The current govt in Iran are just vestiges of the old pro Soviet cabal...

Matt Franko said...

Same with Cuba/Venezuela, North Korea, Syria, Yemen, formerly Libya, perhaps some others...

Matt Franko said...

They didn’t get the memo that the Soviet Union collapsed...

Tom Hickey said...

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Bob Roddis said...

The key point here is that no one really "found" anything to be true about anything. There has been no adjudication of "truth" by a fact finder. Iran never responded to the lawsuit so a default judgment was entered as a matter of course. If Iran has assets in the U.S., the plaintiffs could theoretically seize them to satisfy the money judgment. Otherwise, this means nothing.

Noah Way said...
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Noah Way said...

Operation Ajax

Cool. I didn't know HTML links worked here. Images to?

Tom Hickey said...

didn't know HTML links worked here. Images to?

Unfortunately, Google chose not to include it in Blogger.

"Your HTML cannot be accepted: Tag is not allowed: IMG"

Tyler Healey said...

9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out

Matt Franko said...

“This requires citation of references.”

No need to be so formal for anything I contribute guys... iow feel free to use any of my stuff here without attribution...

Unknown said...

Look up Murdabad


verb
1.
(transitive) ( Indian) down with; death to: used as part of a slogan in India, Pakistan, etc Compare zindabad


See the slogan in action in India

Noah Way said...

"No need to be so formal for anything I contribute"

You don't contribute anything ...

Matt Franko said...

All my stuff is open source Noah... :p

Matt Franko said...

Unk, that is not how it is interpreted here... it’s intetpreted as a threat of death...

Unknown said...

Matt, that is a faulty interpretation of the slogans - with the reporters not telling the culturl context of the slogans. It is a deliberate misrepresentation of what is said. In fact in both the Indian cultural context and the Iranian context, yelling "FU" or equivalent is considered much worse than yelling "Murdabad" - The meaning of words is all in the cultural context in which they are uttered. And yes cultural contexts can change over time.

Matt Franko said...

Well I would advise them to stop doing it:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/04/26/trump_iran_screamed_death_to_america_under_obama_not_doing_it_under_me.html

We have the nukes...

Noah Way said...

Calling for death to the country that has overthrown your democratically elected parliament and prime minister, installed a brutal dictator, siphoned off your natural resources for decades, armed and encouraged your enemies, etc. is not at all unreasonable.

Bob Roddis said...

Noah Way said...

Calling for death to the country that has overthrown your democratically elected parliament and prime minister, installed a brutal dictator, siphoned off your natural resources for decades, armed and encouraged your enemies, etc. is not at all unreasonable.

This is absolutely and totally correct.

The great Roy A. Childs provided a history of US crimes in Iran back in the February 1980 issue of Libertarian Review:

https://www.unz.com/print/LibertarianRev-1980feb-00024/

Pretty Satanic, eh, Mr. Franko?