Wednesday, May 6, 2020

London Real - War

I spent about a month arguing with the climate change deniers on twitter. Many were professional deniers who were extremely well versed in their arguments. I was lucky as I had a number of people on my side, including some climatologists. In that period, though, I learnt a lot about how the denier mind works.

I follow a number of left-wingers on twitter who, like me, question 9/11, the Syrian war, Russiagate, the Skripal poisoning, etc, but when I found out that many these people were climate change deniers I was shocked. Now, recently, I have discovered that many of them are also anti-vax, Bill Gates, 5g, Covid-19 conspiracists, and that includes Richard Werner, someone I really like. This left me reevaluating my own conspiracy questions as I could not believe a word of these people anymore.

Anyway, this video clip is from London Real, which has 1.8m subscribers. David Fuller of Rebel Wisdom pointed this out. The feeling I get from twitter is that this is how many of the alt-left (as I call them) and their libertarian compatriots feel. They are totally charged up and very angry. They are inside an echo chamber where they keep repeating this nonsense, but there are academics on board too, like Professor Piers Morgan and Professor Richard Werner, although it's doubtful they would approve of this video. This has gone overboard.







16 comments:

Matt Franko said...

Kevin the video is some dude training kick boxing....

Kaivey said...

Look at the comments, it's all about getting Bill Gates.

Matt Franko said...

What does that have to do with kick boxing?

Kaivey said...

London Real campaign against the government and are David Icke followers. They recently did a interview of David Icke in a secret location in a basement. Although it turns out it may have been their usual building. It's strange. Watch the Rebel Wisdom videos.

Kaivey said...

He's kind of saying to his followers prepare for war. I don't think they really mean it, it's figuratively, like you say.

Kaivey said...

Rebel Wisdom are really interested in this, like me, and are going to cover it, so I might post more here.

Rebel Wisdom are leftist Jordan Peterson followers. I find it interesting that maybe their can be some understanding between left and right.

Kaivey said...

Wrong there. I'm in the garden in the sun and I can hardly see the screen

Matt Franko said...

" it's figuratively, like you say."

Its a big problem... stay with the literal/real and science abstractions in this area is my recommendation...

also Jordan Peterson is in drug rehab... or was in rehab and just got out... ie not a person who has their shit together probably another one to avoid...

Matt Franko said...

Also Icke thinks people are lizards and stuff like that ... so I'd caveat emptor there too....

I think what these people are doing is they dont understand what is going on in real terms or in proper scientific abstractions so they have to resort to figurative representations... so this is where Icke creates these "lizard people" and they start to think they are REAL...

This would be like if I didnt understand the scientific abstractions of National Income Accounting and I would start saying my "USD zombies!" were REAL...

Matt Franko said...

I think Icke was a football player by training? (performance Artist) so he's not going to understand immunology in proper abstractions of science... then reverts to 'lizard people' etc..

5G same thing... the performance gains in that upgrade are startling (non-linear).. they dont understand the scientific abstractions of Electricity and electromagnetism and communication and information... I went through that training and I would submit it is THE MOST abstract discipline in the Science academe... so those people with their Art Degree training have absolutlely NO CHANCE of properly understanding it in proper abstraction ... then as artists will default to figurative representations to the point they begin to think they are REAL...

They have no choice...

Same with the "out of money!" morons... like we could ever run out of any abstraction of Science...

Peter Pan said...

Kaivey is going down the rabbit hole, figuratively speaking.

Matt Franko said...

He’s just trying to figure it out..,,

Kaivey said...

I think you maybe right.

Peter Pan said...

Investigating rabbit holes is a time-honoured journalistic tradition.

Calgacus said...

question 9/11

Really, what is there for a sane person to question about 9/11?
Everybody knows what happened - and saw it with their own eyes. As predicted, the twin towers were unable to withstand a collision with jets loaded with fuel. As predicted (by Eqbal Ahmad), Osama Bin Laden committed a huge terrorist act. And he then claimed credit for it afterwards. So there was garden variety post facto coverups etc - what a surprise. But the evil official story, like the evil official story that the world is round and not run by extradimensional reptiloids- is basically and obviously right.

So of course people come up with the stupidest, most dishonest and ridiculous conspiracy theory of all time, 911 Truth. People should watch the South Park episode on it Mystery of the Urinal Deuce. If there is a big bad government conspiracy afoot - it is to rot peoples' minds so that they can believe utterly stupid garbage like 911 Truth.

Shocker said...

Is there another Piers Morgan? This one ain't no professor nor lefty of any kind.