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“This Will Be Remembered as a Turning Point”: Snowden Warns Against Trump Social Media Ban
Alan Macleod
Friday, January 8, 2021
“This Will Be Remembered as a Turning Point”: Snowden Warns Against Trump Social Media Ban — Alan Macleod
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“This Will Be Remembered as a Turning Point”: Snowden Warns Against Trump Social Media Ban
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They are redrawing the line to censor more and more.
no one stopping anybody else from building out alternative platforms...
no one stopping anybody else from building out alternative platforms...
Why do you think that FB, Twitter, Google, Amazon, etc. have no meaningful competition if there is a profitable competitive alternative?
Trump using twitter as a free service to maintain and build a concentration of followers during presidency in order to leverage them post administration....
gotta see what trump does..... you know he's going to want 51% for doing nothing so well see if he can get that...
If alternatives become competitive, they too may be banned, or sanitized.
with 5g becomes even easier...
The question is who should draw the lines and how.
Who thinks that Mark Z. or Jack D. should be the guys? If you think that, on the basis of what criteria?
Or should the government iaw the rule of law? On what criteria? Who should decide specific cases?
Or should free speech just include everything, including child pornography, terrorist activity, and the like.
This is a knotty issue under liberalism and different jurisdiction handle it differently.
There are obscenity laws and hate speech laws. Lines drawn from past experience. Why tinker with them?
The question of privately held platforms is their regulation: are they publishers or utilities?
But why are we arguing what is correct, when the intention is to censor everything that does not fit the official (ruling class) narrative?
Tom do you know how much Rush and Sean and Bill Oreiily and Trump are worth?
Boo hoo they might have to open their wallets and create their own system...
If someone(s) think it would be profitable, they might do it. Could be for the advertising.
Otherwise, for the vanity of it?
Looks like DJT is already thinking about it.
Trump suggests building own platform after Twitter ban
Otherwise, it's probablyParler. But Parler has been removed from Google Play and Apple is threatening to remove it.
The real problem is Corporations being in control of our national dialog.
Trump didn't want the results of a legitimate election to stand and this guy wants to protect Trump's free speech. He needs his brain reamed out!
@ Peter Pan
The question of privately held platforms is their regulation: are they publishers or utilities?
Good question. The Internet should be considered an international public utility, in my view. Private companies use the Internet in partnership with the public to serve the public interest as well as engage in business, and the public interest takes priority. Everyone is a stakeholder including those not yet born who will inevitably be influenced by the deeds of the present. Rights involve responsibilities.
That is to say, the Internet is a key factor in control of the commanding heights and that control needs to be distributed in accordance with the overall needs of the global system without asymmetries. Information and information transfer is part of the commons.
As it stands, social media platforms are not liable for content posted. Yet it seems they are tasked with censoring that content on behalf of the government. Some of this is legitimate, with regard to upholding community standards (obscenity laws). The rest is problematic, since it affects political speech.
I dont think Twitter uses the internet Tom... iirc they have their own proprietary protocol...
“Internet” defined as TCP/IP...
Could be some of the issue here...,
Net neutrality addresses how data is transferred (multiplexing) without prioritizing certain data streams over others. That is another method of throttling platforms that do not pay a premium fee, or don't the government's approval.
*have*
It still gets there...
Just have to create a browser based platform for “ social media “ and roll up newsmax OAN etc... or do your own from scratch if they won’t tie in for %... Everything is going smart TV VOD except for live programming like sports and perhaps breaking news...
Newsmax estimated worth 200m that is peanuts...
He could get 74m voters to invest $100 each and raise $ 7.4B you wouldn’t need anywhere near that amount to stand this thing up... $1B would be more than enough to get it well off the ground..,
And he'd have to erect utility poles, string optical cable, construct server farms, etc...
You can't bypass hardware, or use the broadcast spectrum without regulatory approval.
No he wouldn’t if you have internet service it works...
I don’t think Twitter uses the internet...
iow I don’t think Twitter uses the normal open systems protocols...
So they can control it..,
http://www.paulgraham.com/twitter.html
“why Twitter is such a big deal.
The reason is that it's a new messaging protocol, where you don't specify the recipients. New protocols are rare. Or more precisely, new protocols that take off are. There are only a handful of commonly used ones: TCP/IP (the Internet), SMTP (email), HTTP (the web), and so on. So any new protocol is a big deal. But Twitter is a protocol owned by a private company. That's even rarer.
Curiously, the fact that the founders of Twitter have been slow to monetize it may in the long run prove to be an advantage. Because they haven't tried to control it too much, Twitter feels to everyone like previous protocols. One forgets it's owned by a private company. That must have made it easier for Twitter to spread.”
Just have to use open systems standards..,,
HTTP supports live video...
probably their periscope doesn’t use http live streaming they have some other protocol...
The open technology is already there and certainly the munnie is there..,
The hard part will be putting the deal together you know trump is going to want 51% for putting no munnie in and not doing much else except showing up...
It’ll be interesting to see if some people take that deal...
This is the same anti commie thing that William Casey did with Capital Cities Broadcasting for radio/TV back in the 50s and Murdoch did with FoxNews for CATV in the 90s.... happens all the time..,
Just have to do it again for the new transmission technology...
The thing is whether it can get done this time with Trumps usual 51% for doing not very much m.o.....
Here is the internet protocol suite:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite
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