Sunday, January 23, 2022

A Twitter thread about the Uyghurs

 This twitter thread could be close to the truth about what happened in China with the Uyghurs, but I can't validate it. The truth would seem to be somewhere in the middle. 

China had a massive problem with terrorism, which had taken the lives of 11,000 people and injured many more. 

Militant Jihadists were coming back from the war in Syria all fired up with Jihadism, wanting to spread militant Jihadism throughout China. They wanted to separate Xinjiang from the rest of China and create a caliphate state, from which they could launch a war into China.

I put out here in the past leaked CIA documents which which discussed how they could use jihadist Uyghurs to cause a civil war in China. The document said such a war would drain China’s resources, slow down its development, reduce its competive advantage, and then the US could regain its competive lead again. This is how the world works, and its evil!

China was rightly very concerned about this and decided to put many of the radicalised Uyghurs through a re-education program.

China had never made it compulsory for the Uyghurs to speak Mandarin, and this had led to them to be left behind economically, which caused a lot of resentment, fueling the seperatist movement, so now learning Mandarin became a priority. 

The radicalised Uyghurs were shown films of suicide bombers who had survived, but now deeply regreted what they had done, as they had killed innocent people. 

Films of the families who had lost love ones were also shown where the family members were very distraught and upset. And maimed victims who had survived suicide bomb attacks were shown. On the whole, the reeducation programme was a success. 


Below is just one person's point of view, but he he did feel that the reeducation programme was very disruptive. 


There is no genocide in Xinjiang but there is marginalisation. No one should be forced to take extra education because of their cultural background.


Look, I’ve had multiple contacts who’ve gone through the education. Yes they’re alive and yes they speak Uyghur and can be Uyghur.


But just think about how it feels that you lose a year of your life because of the actions of others?


Like yes, you can go home during school, yes the schools are run by Uyghur teachers but it doesn’t detract from how it’s a policy targeted at a certain group.


Honestly, since I went back to China, I’ve heard some pretty sick things from ignorant people. They assume Islam is violent just because of what the American news reports. The East Turkestan terrorist attacks haven’t helped.


China needs to everyone aware of the truth.

Anyway, just stop saying nothing is happening in Xinjiang.


Yeah, we need to debunk the obvious fake news like mass genocide, slavery and rape etc but we also need to see that there is discrimination and an over response to terrorism.


If you have twitter you can read the whole thing here. 



11 comments:

Peter Pan said...

Months ago I compared China's actions to Canada's residential schools program. Since then, mass graves have been discovered in various locations across Canada.

Marian Ruccius said...

Peter Pan: NO mass graves have been discovered at the sites of the former residential schools. Great numbers of unmarked graves HAVE been discovered. Very different things, I am afraid: in the first instance, it means that there were actual massacres (however, in fact there were none in the residential schools). In the second case, it means that hundreds of Indigenous children died of disease, neglect, abuse, and perhaps in some cases by direct killing, over a period of a hundred years or so. The second case is nearly as bad as the first case, but it is not the same thing. There was no "extermination policy", rather there was a policy of deculturation, denaturation, and cultural genocide, combined with abuse and institutionalized neglect (which also encouraged massive sexual abuse).

But there was a good deal more oversight and reporting, even on the horrendous project that was the residential schools, than the program that Chinese government has applied to the Uighurs.

Matt Franko said...

Shania Twain and Neil Young are both of native ancestry…

Peter Pan said...

Mass graves in the sense of stacking bodies.

That it took a century to learn of these details doesn't bode well for what happened, and is happening, in Xinjiang province.

Marian Ruccius said...

Peter Pan: fair statement, but I heard a CBC announcer talking about "massacres" the other day. As you know, there have been quite a lot of those in Canadian history, just not at the residential schools, which were horrifying in other ways.

Peter Pan said...

I don't trust the CBC to do honest reporting.

Marian Ruccius said...

When one remembers how even handed and skeptical, say, Alan Maitland was, it is really sad to see the state of CBC reporting, the deep bias in it all.

Peter Pan said...

I don't remember him. Growing up in Quebec, I never listened to CBC Radio. Barbara Frum is another story.

They'd be spinning in their graves if they knew what the CBC has become.

Kaivey said...

I hate to think that I might be supporting a murderous, repressive regime, so I am cautious. Really, I kind of neutral, but there is so much anti China propaganda out there, which I can spot a mile off, that I think that the world can tolerate my explanation of what is happening in China, and why the country does what it does. It makes sense.

I put out CIA documents here about how they wanted to cause a civil war in China using the Uyghurs. And Lawrence Wilkerson has said the same about the US doing this.

This world is incredibly wicked, and there is propaganda and counter propaganda, so it's difficult to know what the real truth is.

Whatever China’s past, I can understand its security concerns, and I'm hoping it will move towards a fair and open social democracy of some sort.

China, though, seems to be have a very tough working culture, which I do find brutal. People are just working themselves to death. I wouldn't want a Chinese system here. I like the Nordic model and culture.

I am aware of my blind spots: the brutal US wars since WW2, plus its own harsh culture, has deeply affected me, so I always view the world through that prism. I wish countries could be a bit more kinder.

Tom Hickey said...

China, though, seems to be have a very tough working culture

To they that the Chinese are "competitive" is an understatment. Starts with tiger moms. Then the competition for a place in a university, the rank of which determines one's opportunities. Then a job where one is expected to "perform" seven days a week.

Oh, and they also understand how to cooperate.

The US wants to "compete" with China. Laughable.

Tom Hickey said...

The only moral solution is for China to leave Xin Jiang to its only rightful inhabitants, the Uighurs

Not the way the world works. Life is not fair (moral).