Saturday, April 21, 2012

A Marxist viewpoint on Krugman v. Keen (and MMT)


It's really an examination of MMT from a Marxist perspective. The author incorrectly seems to think that Steve Keen is MMT.

Read it at Michael Roberts Blog | blogging from a marxist economist

by Michael Roberts
(h/t Clonal Antibody via email)
But the Marxist theory of money makes an important distinction from the MMT guys.  Capitalism is a monetary economy.  Capitalists start with money capital to invest in production and commodity capital, which in turn, through the expending of labor power, eventually delivers new value that is realised in more money capital.  Thus the demand for money capital drives the demand for credit.  Banks create money or credit as part of this process of capitalist accumulation, not as something that makes finance capital separate from capitalist production.
I would not say that there is an enormous gap here. It is an established fact that investment has been and remains the primary use of credit in capitalist economies and that interest rates are the cost of obtaining capital through acquiring debt. Most economists would agree with this, I believe, including MMT economists.

And they would also point out that consumer credit was virtually unknown in the day of Marx, other than for the wealthy and powerful. Since the introduction of the credit card and widespread home ownership made government policy, credit extended to workers rather than the ownership class has soared. So when Marx was writing industrial capital was paramount, whereas now finance capital is becoming dominant, with the financial sector responsible for a growing share of GDP. Michael Hudson has observed that Marx never expected that industrial capital would be challenged by finance capital. This is a new phenomenon that is characteristic of a stage of capitalism that Marx did not anticipate, since "capitalism" for him meant industrial capitalism. Financial capital served industrial capital at that time. This is no longer the case as finance capital becomes an ever bigger player.

But according to Roberts, the largest divergence between MMT-PKE and Marxism is that the former focuses on Minskian financial instability and Keynesian "animal spirits," which he sees as entangled in the mysticism of expectations, i.e., subjective,  whereas the latter is based on falling rate of profits, which is objective.

On the other hand, Wynne Godley was able to accurately predict the coming crisis based on his three sector model, which finds antecedents in the work of Keynes, Kalecki, Kaldor and Robinson on prices, wages, profit and capital accumulation. Godley attempted to "objectify" the Keynesian narrative in stock-flow consistent modeling based on accounting principles and national accounting identities in developing a fresh approach to macroeconomic modeling.

So there seems to be more significant agreement on monetary economics between MMT and Marxism that difference in that they both agree that mainstream economists have this entirely wrong.

13 comments:

Trixie said...

Thanks for this, a great read. Especially for those of us trying to get a better understanding of the differences between the various economic schools.

Mario said...

great one Tom. I've been on this train for a while now and love to see this coming out.

Personally most people don't even know what Marxism states to begin with let alone that our current economists don't know what they are talking about.

Most people have somehow, somewhere, somewhen perpetually associated Marx with Communist Manifesto (even though they don't even know what that says to begin with either!). haha!!

Anonymous said...

Tom:

Though there isn't a strong sense of it from that piece, there are actually a few different currents in Marxian economics regarding crisis theory. Michael Roberts is situated in the camp that emphasizes the movements in what Marx called "the most important law of political economy," the tendency of the rate of profit to fall. Their view is generally less rosy than the "Monthly Review School," who followed in the footsteps of Sweezy and emphasize underconsumption as the fundamental cause of crisis, thus aligning them more overtly with Left-Keynesians.

Another Marxist author operating in the same vein as Roberts is Andrew Kliman, best known for his work on the "TSSI" (temporal single-system interpretation), which resolves the inconsistencies many have read into Marxian value theory (his book Reclaiming Marx's Capital is taken to be the most complete explanation of the TSSI).

Kliman recently released another book (The Failure of Capitalist Production) in which he steps away from theory and starts crunching numbers to delve more specifically into the Falling Rate of Profit issue. The results are pretty impressive: he observes, using a measure of profit based on the TSSI, a secular decline in profitability from the end of WW2 that did not recover significantly in the 80s.

To summarize his thesis, he claims the problem started in the 70s, as that crisis never fully resolved itself. Since profits never recovered, every period of prosperity since has been based on some flavor of credit bubble (80s S&L crash, 90s dot com, 00s real estate), as opposed to the generally consistent expansion of 1947-1967. A lengthier summary can be found here.

This seems like a pretty important contribution, IMO.

Tom Hickey said...

@ Anonymous

Thanks for the elucidation about Marxian thought.

I don't think that MMT economists or most Post Keynesians would disagree with the essentials of that view. Kalecki was a Marxian economist in background who synthesized Keynesian and Marxian thought and developed the well-known Kalecki profit equation. HIs work is recognized as a basis for subsequent Post Keynesian thought.

Kalecki has been called "one of the most distinguished economists of the 20th century." It is often claimed that he developed many of the same ideas as Keynes, before Keynes; however, since he published in Polish, he remains much less known to the English-speaking world. He offered a synthesis that integrated Marxist class analysis and the then-new literature on oligopoly theory, and his work had a significant influence on both Neo-Marxian (Monopoly Capital)[2] and Post Keynesian schools of economic thought. He was also one of the first macroeconomists to apply mathematical models and statistical data to economic questions. See link above for source.

This also fits in quite well with Minsky's analysis of finance capital, which tends toward greater speculation and less investment as the long financial cycle progresses. What happend over the past several decades is the substitution of rent-seeking for investment as more profitable on a risk-weighted basis. Why take risk and waiting through investment when quick gains are available through speculation, and government is there to backstop? What happened was entirely predictable, as Michael Hudson has pointed out.

Interestingly, Minsky was a student of Schumpeter, and Schumpeter's grand project was to provide an analysis similar to Marx but in contrast also by not being Marxist. Keynes was also in that same boat, either by coincidence or design. Some accuse him of importing Marxian ideas without attribution.

Why do you think that the right calls the left "socialist." It's not out of the blue or just dreamed up.

Mario said...

To summarize his thesis, he claims the problem started in the 70s, as that crisis never fully resolved itself. Since profits never recovered, every period of prosperity since has been based on some flavor of credit bubble (80s S&L crash, 90s dot com, 00s real estate), as opposed to the generally consistent expansion of 1947-1967. A lengthier summary can be found here.

BINGO!!!

Why do you think that the right calls the left "socialist." It's not out of the blue or just dreamed up.

exactly. Marx is the giant boogie man in the bedroom for the right (and he was a big man lol). The white elephant. Better to ad hominem the man than actually deal with his ideas, b/c they truly are impressive and even if you don't agree with the man, they are still quite respectable and of worthy repute. I think we've seen that pattern with Keynes, Post-K, and MMT too don't you?!??!!

Tom Hickey said...

@ Mario

Marginalize (heterodox economics) and ostracize (Marxist and Marxian economics).

Oliver said...

Thanks for the link! I have a feeling PKE and Marxists are talking about 2 sides of the same coin with diminishing profits and financialisation/debt bubbles/income inequality etc.. But I think it's worth delving into some Marxist details in any case. If only the good fellow had used less words to make his points...

Mario said...

If only the good fellow had used less words to make his points...

haha!!! We are all spoiled with Warren that's for sure!!!! Academia, much like politics (and dunkin donuts), has ALOT (arguably too much) filler.

One is considered to be "educated" when one is more able and adept at maneuvering and navigating through others' mental masturbations!!! haha!!! One would posit....

Oiver said...

@Mario

I'm half German and I can tell you it's no accident that there is no word for concise in German. Only the French have worse verbal diarrhoea...

paul meli said...

"…our current economists don't know what they are talking about…"

This makes it difficult to engage in civil discourse. How does one show respect to those that have sold out or don't bother to question stuff that doesn't seem to work?

Mario said...

point taken paul. Thanks. I'll be on my toes more in future. It's frustrating at times, and sometimes I speak from that place.

paul meli said...

@Mario

My comment wasn't directed at you. You are at all times civil, if occasionally perplexed.

I was thinking more of my own incivility…

Mario said...

haha!! sounds good man. You are too kind and far too accurate at the same time!! I love it!! :D