Thursday, September 16, 2021

Jack Power - Hospital group ‘gravely concerned’ over Covid-19 misinformation

 There's something wrong with these people. 




Medical staff can be heard in the video warning the patient about the risks of leaving the hospital, stating they were worried about his condition. File photograph: Alan Betson/The Irish Times 

Medical staff can be heard in the video warning the patient about the risks of leaving the hospital, stating they were worried about his condition. File photograph: Alan Betson/The Irish Times. 


Saolta Healthcare Group has said it is “gravely concerned” by a number of recent incidents in which groups of activists have attempted to spread disinformation about Covid-19 at hospitals.


In recent days a Covid-19 patient was encouraged to leave Letterkenny General Hospital by an activist, who filmed the interaction in the hospital, with the video later posted on social media.


In the video, the activist said he was “rescuing” the man, and falsely claimed treatment in the hospital would “kill” the patient.


Medical staff can be heard in the video warning the patient about the risks of leaving the hospital, stating they were worried about his condition.


One staff member told the man that leaving the hospital would risk “endangering” his life. “It’s a very difficult disease that you have, and I’m not lying to you, you could die, but this could be your best chance in the hospital,” the staff member told the patient.


A source confirmed the incident took place in the Donegal hospital in recent days.


Irish Times


Jack Power - Hospital group ‘gravely concerned’ over Covid-19 misinformation

24 comments:

Ahmed Fares said...
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Ahmed Fares said...

Hi. I've been dosing ivermectin for
3 weeks now. I'm 289lbs but I've
been dosing enough for a 350lb
man. Better safe than sorry.
Anyway, I have been living on only
carrots and apples for the last 2
weeks. I just crave them. I also
nailed my shoes to my feet and
pulled my own car to work this
morning after waking up in a field
next to my trailer this morning.

[just something I saw on Reddit]

Ahmed Fares said...

Joking aside, our hospitals are on the brink of collapse here in Alberta. Yesterday, emergency alerts started flashing on phones and televisions across the province as new emergency measures were put in place. They've asked for help from neighboring provinces, but they too expect the same Delta wave to overwhelm their ICU capacity.

'Our thoughts are with Albertans': B.C. says it can't take patients from Alberta's overwhelmed ICUs

So we may up sending patients across the country to Ontario.

Alberta patients may be transferred to Ontario as hospitals bear down under COVID-19's 4th wave

91% of the people in ICUs are unvaccinated.

Peter Pan said...

A year ago there was no vaccine and somehow your hospitals made it through the crisis. Enough of this bullshit.

Matt Franko said...

You guys might be already hitting virus season that we hit in November…

lastgreek said...

This situation forces hospitals to ratio medical care. Otherwise, they are nothing mroe than "covid hospitals"... and overwhelmingly for the unvaccinated idiots/fools/shitheads -- call them whatever demeaning name you can think of.

lastgreek said...

"ration"

hoonose said...

The effect of the Covid 19 cases on different regions and different hospitals within those regions has varied enormously during the course of the Pandemic based on the movement of the virus. And the required ICU beds is very difficult to nail down in any one place and at any one time. Some areas are limited by their rural nature. Those smaller and/or rural HC facilities may not have the staff and expertise to manage a more serious Covid 19 case. So those patients are sent out to the few central specialty centers. And when those referral centers get stuffed, the whole shebang starts to break down, down stream.

Ahmed Fares said...

Peter Pan,

It's true we made it without the vaccine before, but we're talking about the Delta variant here, which has a higher R0 number.

The current R-naught for the Delta variant falls between five and nine, according to recent documents from the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (U.S. CDC). Recently the U.S. CDC updated their estimate to reflect the Delta variant having an R-naught of 8.5

Have a look at the bar chart on this page, and then the graph below it (AB is Alberta for those of you not Canadian - we're the ones on the left):

Everything you need to know about COVID-19 in Alberta on Thursday, Sept. 16

They've introduced proof of vaccination cards and for those who don't want to get vaccinated, they have to show proof of a negative Covid test. And they have to pay for it out of pocket. I hope it's expensive.

Negative COVID-19 tests from Alberta Health are not applicable as part of the "vaccination exemption program," Dr. Deena Hinshaw said Thursday. Tests must be privately paid for.

(This is a big deal because we have single-payer government-funded health care in Canada. We complain because we have to pay for parking at hospitals. So this is a new experience for them.)

As for the tests:

proof of a privately-paid negative PCR or rapid test within 72 hours of service (tests from AHS or Alberta Precision Laboratories not allowed

That's every three days. I hope the lineups are long.

I just looked up the cost. I'm assuming the cost would be the same for the above also and not just for travellers.

If you require proof of a negative COVID-19 test result prior to travel, all Albertans can access a new COVID-19 travel testing service offered by Dynalife Medical Labs for $150 per traveller.

Ahmed Fares said...

Further to my comment,

It's about ICU capacity for those who don't have Covid.

Alabama man, 73, dies of heart failure after 43 ICU's across three states reject him because they are filled with COVID patients

An Alabama man died of heart failure after being turned away from 43 hospitals across three southern states that were overrun with COVID patients.

Ray DeMonia, 73, was eventually admitted to a hospital in Meridian, Mississippi, 200 miles away from his home in Cullman, Alabama, but was too sick to save, and died on September 1.

DeMonia, who ran an antiquing business for 40 years, had suffered a heart incident just days before his birthday and needed a specialized cardiac ICU bed.

His family said that staff at their local hospital had contacted 43 hospitals across three states asking for a free bed before they finally located on in Meridian, Mississippi, according to DeMonia's obituary.

Peter Pan said...

If everyone catches Delta, there's no point in testing. Odds are it is contagious enough for that eventual outcome.

You can get an antibody test, to confirm your immunity, and depending on the severity, you'll be protected up to a year. Mild cases may only grant immunity for a few months.

An ICU should be allocated according to chances of survival. A first come, first served basis would be unethical, IMO.

Peter Pan said...

I've said it before, I'll say it again: what's happening in Alberta could happen in Nova Scotia. Our 6% higher vax rate won't protect us.

Ahmed Fares said...

Have a look at the chart of ICU capacity on this page. Based on the projection, we hit the limit on Sep. 29.

Alberta asks provinces for help as ICU capacity nears breaking point

Peter Pan said...

The provinces could have invested in ICU capacity, but as usual, they invest as little as they can get away with. We just had an election in NS, and the party that won, did so on a promise of greater investment in health care.

How many decades have Canadians been waiting for the doctor shortage to be addressed?

Imagine having to go to the emergency room and waiting for hours because you have a mole on your leg that looks suspicious. Only then can you be referred to a specialist. This is what Canadians have to put up with because they can't find a family doctor.

Ahmed Fares said...

Vaccine passports work.

The demand for COVID-19 vaccinations tripled in Alberta on Thursday, the day after Premier Jason Kenney announced the province's version of a vaccine passport.

Alberta Health reported 28,158 doses were administered at Alberta Health Services clinics and pharmacies on Thursday compared to 9,750 on Wednesday.

Matt Franko said...

“An Alabama man died of heart failure after being turned away from 43 hospitals across three southern states that were overrun with COVID patients.”

This is funny because last year the whole thing was out of concern for the system becoming over run… now it’s becoming over run and we do nothing?

What kind of morons are running this?

hoonose said...

This needs to be part of future pandemic planning. There might be a need for national medical reservists.

Matt Franko said...

hoo lol we dont even have bus drivers:
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/15/1037307027/massachusetts-calls-national-guard-school-bus-driver-shortage-baker

Matt Franko said...

And MMT want to spend 3.5T on non existent infrastructure workers..

hoonose said...

Where there a national will, there can be money. Whether the qualified and necessary workers sign up in enough numbers is another thing.

Peter Pan said...

How much does it cost to train an army medic?

How does Cuba train their doctors?

Joe said...

"Imagine having to go to the emergency room and waiting for hours because you have a mole on your leg that looks suspicious. Only then can you be referred to a specialist. This is what Canadians have to put up with because they can't find a family doctor."

Many Americans would be grateful to at least have that. Here you can probably get in at a same day care for $125, then maybe get sent to the dermatologist for god knows how much (and you wait) and then get a mole removed and sent a bill for several thousand dollars. If you have insurance, you'll still have to pay cause deductibles are high, assuming the insurance will even pay it, as they generally like to wiggle their way out of paying.

Peter Pan said...

Many Americans would be grateful to have a cop put a bullet through their brain.

For wealthy Canadians, healthcare is accessible. Justin Trudeau and his family do not go to the emergency room. Therein lies the problem.

Peter Pan said...

The other side of the equation is that the non-wealthy are servile.

Equality before the law - lets give it a try!