Part 2.
In a podcast discussion with Walter Bradley Center director Robert J. Marks, neurosurgeon Michael Egnor talks about how many famous neuroscientist became dualists—that is, they concluded that there is something about human beings that goes beyond matter—based on observations they made during their work [4:24 min].
PIONEER NEUROSCIENTISTS BELIEVED THE MIND IS MORE THAN THE BRAIN
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Dualism is nonsense. Dementia is real.
Destroy the brain and you destroy the mind.
There are many examples of human beings who are living vegetables.
A few, show them kindness. Most avoid them.
They are a reminder that life can be worse than death.
"There are many examples of human beings who are living vegetables.
A few, show them kindness."
there are many more who would work with those people but those jobs dont pay very well because "out of money!".... which is a technical/cognitive problem among those who are not "vegetables" (figurative language)..
hey JR at least you are avoiding the Art people's figurative language trap...
Youve got terminology: "a monadic, buddhic, manasic, astral, and physical" these are not figurative terms... original terms...
and youve got math/geometry: "seven planes"...
You could probably diagram that stuff....
Better approach than the most popular....
Matt,
There are long-term care workers who have chosen that profession, and there are desperate ex-cons who can't find any other work. The latter are more likely to commit elder abuse.
Now there are people in their 30s or younger, who have fried their brains on designer drugs, and end up in LTC. They pose a greater physical threat to workers than the elderly.
Government does little but nickle and dime the issue.
https://ochu.on.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2019-03-26-Breaking-Point-Violence-Against-Long-term-Care-Staff.pdf
Would you want to work there?
Bob,
no not me... BUT... we should get adequate (maybe even MORE than adequate...) munnie to the people who WOuLD do that..
also we could design better physical systems to care for those people ( would be less drudgery than current...) if there was more munnie going into it...
the whole thing comes back to this major cognitive issue with the "out of money!" reification error that the monetarist morons keep poisoning the minds of Art Degree students in the Economics discipline...
We should arrest these people and start locking them up they are a menace to society...
the whole corona virus thing is instructive here...
Just send them to GITMO for a few years of R&R till we straighten it out... then maybe let them come back...
JR,
"In the perennial wisdom the soul is spoken of as a thread on which the beads of personality are strung"
why dont you use the actual term here for "soul"... dont feel like you have to try to use the King James words in English (polluted with figurative language... its a market language ie good for commerce not science)
Also, the "thread on which beads are strung" is figurative language for linearity... just say "the (insert word for soul here) is linear... competent people will understand that...
iow Stick with the scientific terminology... ie dont try to dumb it down for the morons you will never get anywhere....
Of one thing I am absolutely certain Bob, in all honesty and through experience, is that human consciousness can exist in its own realm, outside of the personality. Of course I realise I cannot pass this conviction to you, but I just wanted to state it.
If it weren't for the external environment, consciousness wouldn't exist. Perception wouldn't exist. It would be if you had a brain in a body living in a vacuum. Helen Keller had it easy when compared to that nightmare.
Have you ever attended a birth, or sat by the bedside of someone passing? There is mind’s perception of things; then there is the awareness that comes from the power of feeling.
If I were present during a birth, I'd faint. My uncle is said to have fainted at the sight of blood, so perhaps this reaction runs in the family.
In the last funeral I was dragged to, I played with the kids that were there for the same reason. I had no idea why the adults were grieving. And why would I? I didn't know the elderly relative who had died. They're weren't a part of my life.
When my parents passed away, I was less affected than normal people would be. By that time I had developed a personality disorder.
I'm aware of experiential knowledge. For example, you never learn to ride a bicycle by reading books on it.
What does this have to do with dualism?
I wouldn’t define certainty as an atomic clock :-) !
An atomic clock is a precision instrument based on a standard.
Standards are supposed to provide certainty, or at least predictability.
Matt,
This is the culture we live in, which prioritizes other things, and looks for excuses to do so. LTC workers deserve more recognition and support. They are a rare breed.
"which prioritizes other things, and looks for excuses to do so"
that is a conspiracy theory... there is NO EVIDENCE of that...
Yo the people who would do that ie prioritizes that LTC work .. are evidence that what you are saying here is FALSE...
they just need to get paid...
In figurative terms think of the unqualified, incompetent "out of money!" morons as a virus like the current corona virus.. that whole material thing is instructive here..
We need to quarantine them... separate them from success oriented society...
Let material competent people administer our material systems for a while...
"We're out of money!" is an excuse, among other things.
The passage of National Defense Acts without nary a mention of affordability is all the evidence one needs.
In regard to bad singers and musicians, they are said to have no soul.
No passion ~ no soul.
Words have definitions. They can be looked up in a dictionary.
Given the context, what other term is there for soul, but spirit?
It is an 'actual term' but not a technical term.
Behavior is more powerful than thought.
The enlightenment of a few is no match for the behavior of many.
And so it is that human beings, in their multitude, devour life on Earth.
And in our spare time, we write about it.
Some say it's a sad chronicle, of what might have been.
Others say good riddance, it is high time for the human pestilence to take its exit.
But those are just sentiments.
They don't amount to anything.
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