Thursday, November 10, 2016

People protesting because a corrupt, greedy, lying, elitist, power-hungry, warmongering woman was not elected. Something's wrong.


Since the election people have gone nuts. We see protests everywhere. Why are people protesting? Because a corrupt, greedy, lying, elitist, power-hungry, warmongering woman was not elected? Something is terribly wrong here.

Hillary Clinton is a dangerous, self-serving woman. These people need to get a clue.


70 comments:

Postkey said...

"Since the election people have gone nuts. We see protests everywhere. Why are people protesting? Because a corrupt, greedy, lying, elitist, power-hungry, warmongering woman was not elected? Something is terribly wrong here."

Only if they are unaware of this?

“ . . . So, those Hillary Clinton emails, they connect together with the cables that we have published of Hillary Clinton, creating a rich picture of how Hillary Clinton performs in office, but, more broadly, how the U.S. Department of State operates. So, for example, the disastrous, absolutely disastrous intervention in Libya, the destruction of the Gaddafi government, which led to the occupation of ISIS of large segments of that country, weapons flows going over to Syria, being pushed by Hillary Clinton, into jihadists within Syria, including ISIS, that’s there in those emails. There’s more than 1,700 emails in Hillary Clinton’s collection, that we have released, just about Libya alone. “
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/julian-assange-hacked-emails-include-info-hillarys-arming-jihadists-including-isis-syria/
“Documents obtained by several journalistic investigations reveal that Lafarge has paid taxes to the terror group to operate its cement plant in Syria, and even bought Isis oil for years…
Lafarge also has close ties to Democrat presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Apart from being a regular donor to the Clinton Foundation, Clinton herself was a director of Lafarge in the early 1990s, and did legal work for the firm in the 1980s. During her connection to Lafarge, the firm was implicated in facilitating a CIA-backed covert arms export network to Saddam Hussein.”
https://geopolitics.co/2016/08/04/wikileaks-drops-most-devastating-bombshell-vs-hillary-clinton/

Marian Ruccius said...

Your description of Clinton is not inaccurate, but Trump is:
a corrupt, greedy, lying, power-hungry, white-supremacist, sexist, climate-change denying, likely rapist, pro-torture, anti-First Nations, dirty oil promoting, mafia-connected, serial abuser of workers and women. And he may prove as much a war-monger as Hillary. So, at first glance, he appears at least as bad and probably worse than the Clinton.

Ryan Harris said...

Hyperbole all of it.

Matt Franko said...

Its called 'truthful hyperbole' :

http://blog.talkingphilosophy.com/?p=9080


Art of the deal..... ;)

Marian Ruccius said...

Ryan Harris: ok, I dearly hope you are correct, because man-made climate change is real.

andy blatchford said...

Hyperbole? Ben Carson for secretary of Education. LOL as bad as Boris Johnson as UK foreign secretary...Idiocracy is getting more and more like a documentary.

Some getting excited as Trump *may* do some infrastructure spending, seriously get a grip guys.

Malmo's Ghost said...

Dept of Education is a worthless bureaucratic clusterfuck. Abolish the fucking thing already.

As for Trump being more corrupt than Clinton? It'll take him decades to catch up to her of that score.

andy blatchford said...

"Department of education is worthless"

Talk about missing the point, I don't know if yours works well or not...but Ben Carson is a Creationist FFS. Screw education right, who needs it.

Malmo's Ghost said...

Point taken. You don't like Ben Carson..or President Trump.

Oh, and kids will be educated just fine absent a Dept of Education. And a wonderful offshoot of it's abolition will be far less mandatory brainwashing and less Idiocracy.

andy blatchford said...

"Kids will be educated just fine"

Leave it to the markets eh...what could go wrong!

Anything else that might be good idea, how about? http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/10/donald-trump-advisors-considered-jpmorgans-jamie-dimon-for-treasury-secretary-sources.html

Plus la change.

Matt Franko said...

Well Andy maybe he won't apply Darwin then maybe? i.e. "survival of the fittest!"

Will be interesting to see....

Matt Franko said...

Mal DOE is in charge of a pretty big leading flow of USDs.... $187B last FY....

Take that away and we're right back to circling the toilet bowl....

Malmo's Ghost said...

No, Andy, leave education to the states and localities like it used to be before 1979--you know, when kids actually learned how to read, write and critically think.

And the Jamie Dimon thing was debunked by Charlie Gasperino. He said he knows for a fact that didn't come out of the Trump campaign.

Malmo's Ghost said...

Matt, send the money to the states then. No strings attached.

Six said...

I don't think you've spent much time in Texas. Brainwashing is the entire point of education down here, with or without a Dept of Education.

andy blatchford said...

Pardon me seems you were right Malmo Trump wants Steve Mnuchin... ex Goldman so that's OK then *phew* nearly a ripple in the space time continium where GS didn't have anyone inside.

It is conservativemeddling where critical thinking isn't allowed in Schools.

Malmo's Ghost said...

Liberals have dirty hands too, Andy. http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=11375

Yeah, I did see Munchin's name. We'll see where that goes.

andy blatchford said...

"Liberals have dirty hands too"

Sure, who knew? Everyone really but that's whataboutary. Doesn't alter that Carson will be Sec of Education.

What next a climate change denier in charge of the EPA? Oh wait Myron Ebell http://www.desmogblog.com/myron-ebell still suppose education won't matter as we destroy the environment.

I don't like Trump as you said above. Damn right I don't, climate change deniers are morons.

Matt Franko said...

andy Trump on climate change:

He was asked if he believed in climate change and he said and I quote "I believe we have weather...."

So not a denial per se....

lastgreek said...

Pardon me seems you were right Malmo Trump wants Steve Mnuchin... ex Goldman so that's OK then *phew* nearly a ripple in the space time continium where GS didn't have anyone inside

Trump Auctions Himself Off to Wall Street

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/07/trump-auctions-himself-wall-street

h/t : Tom Hickey


lastgreek said...


"I believe it goes up and it goes down. So I am not a believer, and I will, unless somebody can prove something to me, I believe there’s weather.” -- "Two Corinthians" Trump on climate change

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-global-warming_us_5601d04fe4b08820d91aa753

Btw,where does the KKK stand on climate change?

GLOBAL WARMING IS STILL A HOAX

http://davidduke.com/global-warming-is-still-a-hoax/

Birds of a feather flock together


andy blatchford said...


"I believe we have weather" erm what? That is saying nothing, it isn't an answer to anything.

The weather isn't the climate...that's a typical rubbish argument from deniers and from that you get silly statements like "it's snowing today so the globe isn't warming" and a PRATT.
We are talking about anthropogenic climate change where humans have caused it. That's the denial they aren't claiming anymore that it isn't changing they are claiming *we* aren't causing it.

Malmo's Ghost said...

Andy, So what if there's anthropogenic climate change? Is there irrefutable proof that it's either good or bad? Folks a lot smarter than you say bollocks to it all: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/magazine/29Dyson-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

And Ben Carson would make a fine Sec of Education being that he's tens times brighter than you, no?

Matt Franko said...

Well maybe he thinks that volatility is increasing...

iow its like the market indexes sometime volatility is low and sometimes it is higher...

Last couple days we've had high volatility e.g....

So he doesnt want to be associated with the "climate change!" schtick but he somewhat understands that we may be entering into an era of increased weather volatility and we should plan accordingly... perhaps take preventative measures...

Like a few years ago it was "global warming!" and now it is "climate change!" .... then the other day, Obama's woman referred to and I quote "climate deniers!"... like people are out there going all around denying there is a climate or something... so this is not very confidence inspiring...

It looks to me that when they went from "global warming!" over to "climate change!" that what they really came across may have been a realization of increase in volatility but they dont know how to properly describe it in scientific terms... I think Trump might agree with this type of assessment...

Then there are the left political types who would have us all slit our wrists and blow our brains out to "save the planet!" (environmental equivalent to Peterson people on "deficits!"...) who are out there on the left that nobody on the right would want to associate with in any way shape or form...

Trump might have to frame it in his own way...

Malmo's Ghost said...

Cook’s 97% Scam Debunked

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2015/10/29/cooks-97-scam-debunked/

Matt Franko said...

Here Andy:

All these people are now asserting there are "climate deniers!"

https://twitter.com/search?q=climate%20denier&src=tyah

WTF??????

This is not very confidence inspiring to competent people I hate to tell you....

These morons are now going all around saying people are denying there is a climate????

WTF is wrong with these people they are losing it????

Matt Franko said...

Textbook Wittgenstein 101:

"Philosophy is a struggle against the bewitchment (Verhexung) of our understanding by the resources of our language. [Ludwig Wittgenstein, "Philosophical Investigations," 1953]"

"Climate deniers!!!!" WTF is wrong with these people????

Tom Hickey said...

What does a neurosurgeon know about education? Oh wait, MD's think they know all about everything and are experts in anything they deign to put their attention on.

Dunning-Kruger effect

Peter Principle

andy blatchford said...

Notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com ??? PMSL you are quoting a WordPress site as debunking climate change Malmo? Really that is so pathetic I dunno where to go with that.
Give me peer reviewed studies or stop being a typical RWNJ.

Matt Franko said...

Tom,

US Christendom wants school choice/vouchers for the parochial schools... i.e. no Darwin....

Tom Hickey said...

Actually, Trump may well be assuming that climate change is real. He may not be convinced that humans are contributing so much to it that the trend can be stopped by changing human behavior.

The really big problem facing governments is the desertification that already taking place and the mass migrations that are resulting from it.

Europe is talking about sealing off the Mediterranean.

Trump's wall would effectively seal off migration from the south.

Tom Hickey said...

US Christendom wants school choice/vouchers for the parochial schools

Right, but that's a matter for Congress to deal with.

Malmo's Ghost said...

Come on Andy, the link merely proves that the 97% consensus is off by roughly 90%. Says nothing about the scientific accuracy of global warming...I mean climate change... I mean ...

Tom, MD's think they know everything--are alone in thinking that? How about leftist intellectuals? How about college professors, left or right? How about posters at his website? LMAO.

andy blatchford said...

It doesn't prove any such thing Malmo. No one knows anything about the person behind the site (it's a blog and not peer reviewed) an anonymous WordPress site does not debunk outfits like NASA etc.
It is wishful thinking on your part (bit like the thinking that Trump is anyone's side apart from his own).

That climate change denialism is stupid. It is probably already too late.

Malmo's Ghost said...

Andy, it does prove what you claim it doesn't. You can Google and find the same lucid arguments elsewhere.

And I'm a denier to the extent that it's not axiomatic whether it's a good or bad development.

BTW, you're not one of these I hope when u don't get your way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywcEZQS0GCI

db68 said...

mike, you have heard what trump has said, correct?

Tom Hickey said...

aTom, MD's think they know everything--are alone in thinking that? How about leftist intellectuals? How about college professors, left or right? How about posters at his website? LMAO.

IN my experience, MD's occupy a special place. Moreover, the public seems to believe it.

I should qualify that. It is not all MD's of course, and it is by large male MD's.

Tom Hickey said...

I'm a denier to the extent that it's not axiomatic whether it's a good or bad development.

It's going to be a good development for some, others, not so much.

Chicago is predicted to have the climate of LA in 2100.

Desertification is forecast for the SouthWest.

Malmo's Ghost said...

Tom, you are likely the brightest person who is a regular at this website or at least in the top two. You know that "education" is a loaded term. You also know that Ben Carson is highly "educated". Do you really think he's a know it all because he's a brain surgeon? I don't think U do. He'd make a fine Sec of Ed. and you know it.

Malmo's Ghost said...

Tom, as usual you are a straight shooter. Climate change is good for some and bad for some. I'll leave it at that.

Ryan Harris said...

Plants become drought resistant with increased CO2, they require less transpiration, not all studies for all plants show the same response of course. Satellite data indicate radically, far greater density of plant cover in the last 20 years than anyone predicted. The Sahal and other desert margin areas are shrinking as the plants encroach when it was predicted they would shrink as the desert expanded. Look at google earth using various years overlays at the Sahel and watch Europe, India, Africa turn greener, remarkable truly. My suspicion is that cheap fuel/gas is not only CO2 fertilizing the plants but also discouraging use of wood as fuel for heating and cooking. Carbon-hungry plants impede growth rate of atmospheric carbon dioxide.
The "pause" in warming is caused by plants

There will be areas that become drier, hotter deserts though and frozen areas may become bogs and begin to store massive amounts of carbon again which could throw everything into question.

lastgreek said...

“A lot of people who go into prison straight, and when they come out they’re gay.” -- Ben Carson

To paraphrase Taleb, Carson is educated, yet still an idiot -- or EYI for short ;)

As for the self-declared bible scholar "Two Corinthians" Trump, I don't believe he knows the difference between weather and climate:

"And actually, we’ve had times where the weather wasn’t working out, so they changed it to extreme weather, and they have all different names, you know, so that it fits the bill. But the problem we have, and if you look at our energy costs, and all of the things that we’re doing to solve a problem that I don’t think in any major fashion exists. I mean, Obama thinks it’s the number one problem of the world today. And I think it’s very low on the list. So I am not a believer, and I will, unless somebody can prove something to me, I believe there’s weather. I believe there’s change, and I believe it goes up and it goes down, and it goes up again. And it changes depending on years and centuries, but I am not a believer, and we have much bigger problems." (From the huffpost link above)

Malmo's Ghost said...

Bob Black, who's an anarchist, and a very smart one to boot:

"Right or wrong comes down to me no likey or me likey". Period! Science has nothing to say on the topic. Good night!

andy blatchford said...

Malmo that YouTube was a bit childish. I actually laughed at the stupidity of it all and no I am quite happy Clinton was defeated I want an end to Neoliberalism and that's happened but it should have been been Sanders who stuck a stake through it's heart. Now it's the neo-nationalists to fight...but they are easier, mainly because they are morons so much more obvious and they aren't international. Trump curiously made the fight for us easier.

Matt Franko said...

Greek, You'd just have to make the higher volatility case to Trump.... he'd understand that...

Carson would be hard to argue with politically (black and Johns Hopkins MD neurosurgeon...) in the quest to get the school vouchers in and ie get the Darwin out...

Tom Hickey said...

Ben Carson: “You go back to the very first chapter in the Bible -- and I’m not a hard and fast person who says the Earth is only 6,000 years old -- but I do believe in the six-day creation,” he said.

“It says, in the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth,” continued Dr. Carson. “It doesn’t say when He created them except for in the beginning. The Earth could have been here for a long time before he started creating things on it.”

“But when He did start doing that, He made it very specifically clear to us: the evening and the morning were the next day,” said Carson. “Because He knew that people would come along and try to say, ‘oh, it was millions and millions of years.’”


http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/ben-carson-i-believe-six-day-creation-world

I rest my case.

andy blatchford said...

@ Ryan there is some truth that greening has slowed CC down but note slowed it not stopped it. It isn't even close to offsetting what we pump out.

andy blatchford said...

More from Carson
He wants to turn the federal Department of Education into an "investigatory body" that would monitor college campuses for "extreme political bias.” If such "extreme" political bias was found, the school would lose its federal funding, he says, because it isn't right for public funding to "indoctrinate students in one direction." However, not realizing the obvious double standard, he reassures Republicans that only liberal political bias would be regulated, since "conservatism could never be considered an extreme ideology"http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/carson-sketches-out-plan-monitoring-campus-speech

Malmo's Ghost said...

Tom, you know I love Fred Reed, a man who loathes Trump:

Third, evolutionists are obsessed by Christianity and Creationism, with which they imagine themselves to be in mortal combat. This is peculiar to them. Note that other sciences, such as astronomy and geology, even archaeology, are equally threatened by the notion that the world was created in 4004 BC. Astronomers pay not the slightest attention to Creationist ideas. Nobody does—except evolutionists. We are dealing with competing religions—overarching explanations of origin and destiny. Thus the fury of their response to skepticism.

"...I found it pointless to tell them that I wasn’t a Creationist. They refused to believe it. If they had, they would have had to answer questions that they would rather avoid. Like any zealots, they cannot recognize their own zealotry. Thus their constant classification of skeptics as enemies (a word they often use)—of truth, of science, of Darwin, of progress.

This tactical demonization is not unique to evolution. “Creationist” is to evolution what “racist” is to politics: A way of preventing discussion of what you do not want to discuss. Evolution is the political correctness of science...."


http://www.unz.com/freed/darwin-unhinged-the-bugs-in-evolution/


I rest my case.. Carson for Sec of Edu.

andy blatchford said...

Worth noting Carson isn't quite as good a surgeon as made out judging by the 8 lawsuits against him.

andy blatchford said...

Fred Reed? Sorry what background does he have in biology?

He is a journo but that's it.

You really need to start giving peer reviewed stuff Malmo as you're just coming across as an anti science crank.

lastgreek said...

I think we can all agree that anyone who believes in a six-day creation should not be Secretary of anything, let alone Secretary of Education.

Btw...

Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper 3h3 hours ago

Source: Trump wants Bannon as chief of staff http://cnn.it/2fG9Abe - #TheLead political panel discusses

Tom Hickey said...

@ Malmo Ghost.

False equivalence.

Yes, there are issues regarding evolutionary theory.

No, the world was not created in six days. It's absurd. Moreover, it is doubtful that the Bible was meant by its authors to be taken literally. Nor were the NT authors writing biography as we understand it.

lastgreek said...


I rest my case.. Carson for Sec of Edu.

OK, except maybe Malmo ;)

Malmo's Ghost said...

Jesus, I'm the only MMT believer here who isn't part of the liberal echo chamber (Mike and Matt notwithstanding).. Sigh...

Malmo's Ghost said...

Andy, You proved Fred Reed's point. Are you bright enough to know what that means?

Malmo's Ghost said...

Tom, so the world was created....but not in six days? lol.

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Malmo's Ghost said...

Lord, Christian Bale is Malmo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilreI5Lv0ew

Matt Franko said...

The people who dont accept the scriptural descriptions of "the beginning" cant accept the knowledge via rote as the scriptures provide it...

So those people have to reason/rationalize or otherwise try to obtain that knowledge thru an active learning process...

What is being demonstrated is the difference between rote learning vs. active learning across both diverse topics and across diverse people....

Its the same thing with MMT or with what happened at 'the beginning'.... you can see different people learning by the two different methodologies...

We use active learning with MMT and get to the truth while the others use rote and are stuck in the false they cant get out of it... some are using rote via the scriptures to obtain knowledge of 'the beginning' while others cannot accept this via rote and are seeking that knowledge via an attempt at non-rote active learning process and reason...

Both ways are being demonstrated...



Matt Franko said...

What's wrong with being sexy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Qn1uHlRIY

Matt Franko said...

Ha Ryan read it before you could delete it!!!

Tom Hickey said...

Tom, so the world was created....but not in six days? lol.

No, the world was not "created." That's a story. Greek mythos means story. It now signifies a cultural narrative in social science and history.

The best explanation at present in the scientific one.

There are three ages wrt to knowledge.

1. Mythological age. Emerged in prehistory with oral story telling and teaching tales.

2. Philosophical age. Began in the West with Thales of Miletus (c. 620 B.C.E.—c. 546 B.C.E.), an ionian Greek.

3. Scientific Age. Developed as a key feature of modernity.

Tom Hickey said...

Carson at Education is Trump's political payoff to the Evangelicals that held their noses and supported him in spite of his life style. And no, he did not repent.

lastgreek said...

Naming Carson at Education is like naming a holocaust denier as your ambassador to Israel.




Matt Franko said...

Greek if they passed vouchers and in a few years Christian schools were built (to not teach Darwin) everyone would send their kids there and there would soon be virtually no public schools left....

GLH said...

Ben Carson is living proof that an education is worthless if a person doesn't learn to THINK.

Postkey said...

"Skeptical Science Study Finds 97% Consensus on Human-Caused Global Warming in the Peer-Reviewed Literature
Posted on 16 May 2013 by dana1981, John Cook
A new survey of over 12,000 peer-reviewed climate science papers by our citizen science team at Skeptical Science has found a 97% consensus among papers taking a position on the cause of global warming in the peer-reviewed literature that humans are responsible."
http://www.skepticalscience.com/97-percent-consensus-cook-et-al-2013.html

Matt Franko said...

"aking a position on the cause of global warming "

Now we are back to "global warming!" ?????

andy blatchford said...

"Liberal echo chamber"

Personally I an a Green but what you really mean Malmo is some of us are calling out your right wing BS.
Tell you what perhaps bring back http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/11/1596660/-Gingrich-proposed-bringing-back-House-Un-American-Activities-Committee. Still I suppose you might get some infrastructure spending out of it.