Tuesday, March 24, 2020

The Dangerous Myth of 'Taxpayer Money' Raúl Carrillo and Jesse Myerson


Ends with a political rant, but the part about "taxpayer money" being public money in reality is correct.

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The Dangerous Myth of 'Taxpayer Money'
Raúl Carrillo, practicing attorney and a director of The Modern Money Network and Jesse Myerson, an Indiana-based community organizer with Hoosier Action

15 comments:

Matt Franko said...

”but by using the “taxpayer money” frame, they were spreading, however unwittingly, a racist, sexist, classist myth. ”

Myth!

That’s you guys explanation number one That’s you guys explanation number one the first one on the list! the first one on the list!

Peter Pan said...

Helicopter money is also public money.

Matt Franko said...

" Yet Republicans now control 68 state legislatures, 34 governorships, and nearly every facet of the federal government."

68 state legislatures? or is he talking about the bicameral total?

Or is this like when Obama said he visited all 54 states?

jrbarch said...

I think the real myth surrounding money is more in the light (understanding) it is seen in.

For me, money is a human ‘GOOD’ – like air, water, the earth and all of the microbes, minerals and precious stones in it – its power to grow amazing food and beautiful plants. Granted, this time, the ‘good’ is created out of the good that exists in a human being - if it is deployed. We have to start looking at things differently to make a difference.

This is the lesson that little corona virus has for all of us. Fear gets us nowhere – courage is needed. Fear clamps everything down; courage addresses the concerns but opens us up because cooperation is needed. This historic war with the corona virus will be won through cooperation and clear thinking. Pointing the finger and wasting focus gets us nowhere.

$money can be deployed selfishly or selflessly. It is the latter that makes us human. If someone points me towards all of the bad that is in a human being, it doesn’t mean the good does not exist. I see a tremendous good in human beings, everywhere I look. If our world ‘leaders’ could see that good, they would know how to lead. Some of them do – some of them don’t. It is the good, the real ‘intelligence’ in a human being that allows us to learn and evolve.

$money is surrounded by a cloud of greed and selfishness, but when the clouds are blown away (which is what this virus is somehow doing, incredibly ruthlessly) then $money’s true nature becomes more evident. Everything becomes more obvious. The heart sees it straight away – the mind – it takes a while longer.

There is a Tibetan monk I know who believed the US could light the way: - Russia could link the two ways of East and West ~ North and South; China could show the way. Is it possible human beings could come to learn from each other; let each other be who they are and appreciate each other? Peace is possible because it already exists, in every human heart – just like the sun in our sky – we just have to learn how to feel it, acknowledge it; that’s all. To become aware.

$money (under human control) can minister to all of our species and the planet, or destroy. Now is the time for clear thinking, courage, empathy – for human beings to come together and win this war that is so much deeper than we think; for the human being to shine. Amidst all of the fear there is an opportunity. To know who you are - to focus on your strengths; to have empathy and listen to the wisdom that is in your own heart – turn the mind down for awhile – to be conscious more than ever before of what is going on; to follow good advice and practice social and self isolation but to come closer to yourself and others; to do what we can to help win this war.

Matt Franko said...

"For me, money is a human ‘GOOD’ – like air, water, the earth and all of the microbes, minerals and precious stones in it "

JR air is not a human good... water, etc...

We humans didnt create any of that stuff...

We DO however create our numismatic or in figurative language "money!" systems... and have FULL authority over them...

We have authority to arrange/administer/operate our numismatic systems any way we want to...



jrbarch said...

Matt - the ultimate human 'good' is your breath. Without it, everything else is worthless. It's just a little change of focus I am talking about. One day, the moon and the earth and the stars will not be here. While we exist - what is there in a human being that is truly precious? It has many names ... it has many faces. Probably, one of them is in your thoughts right now.

Matt Franko said...

jr we just have to pay attention to our material needs a bit...

Here is a scripture in figurative form of analogy describing this era:

"I plant, Apollos irrigates, but God makes it grow up. " 1 Corinthians 3:6

Without the planting and the irrigating there is no growing up...

If you have f_ck up Platonist Art Degree morons running the planting operations and the irrigation operations then nothing is ever going to grow up...

Its not even that hard to do if you have an interest and are trained and qualified.... just takes time and "money!"...

jrbarch said...

Humans seem to be creatures of their own consequences Matt. We plant a lot of weeds amongst what we need and the system grows them splendidly! Am a bit nervous about how you guys will fare in the US with things the way they are.

Matt Franko said...

Jr we’ll be ok eventually....

They’ll do the fiscal as the veeeerrrrrrrrry last thing they do....

After all possible libertarian approaches are tried and fail....

And the virus part of it might be a big hoax anyway.... Still only about 700 deaths ... so far....

Could be like a big white collar antifa riot... if the left can’t rule they always want to burn it all down.... same thing as with the climate nutters, etc... you have a bunch of coastal elite governors and mayors trying to burn the whole thing down ...

Idt trump is going to let them get away with it.... maybe we open back up next week....unless deaths really spike...

S400 said...

Hoax!

Matt Franko said...

If the deaths dont ramp up pretty soon that will quickly become the popular perception... ie "hoax!"...

In the US anyway... Trump probably has the immediate polling on this...

This country wont stand for this if people dont soon start dropping dead...

I give it about another week maybe 2...

Peter Pan said...

Anti-Trump media will be sure to document every death.

Greg said...

So if the deaths don’t ramp up pretty soon it couldn’t possibly have anything to do with the considerable mitigation efforts?

What you are saying is essentially “ You told us to stay home to prevent deaths , if we dont see enough deaths in next week or two we are going to stop listening to your suggestions”. You guys really are running a death cult aren’t you?

Matt is the perfect example of the unscientific persons idea of a scientist.

But at least he can do CB accounting accurately. One of those essential “material” needs.

Peter Pan said...

The death toll will be used as political fodder. This is just an observation, not a seal of approval...

Peter Pan said...

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/means-love-dead-child-200127074745973.html