Wednesday, August 19, 2020

Carl Zha - Covid-19 Wuhan Concert Tweet

I had them all raging at me on Twitter yesterday, including Peter Hitchens, because a Carl Zha tweet I tweet I put out about a rave concert in Wuhan.

The anti-China xenophobes then started really attacking me, but I had loads of twitter videos and pre-written articles in my files folder to counter them with.

Many accuse China of causing the Covid-19 outbreak, and some said China created the virus, but I was able to show them a Reuters article where researchers had found Covid-19 in a drain pipe sample which came from Spain in March last year. Some people came back at me saying that Chinese put it there, and that they designed Covid-19 in a lab, so I showed them articles and videos about the secret American biolabs that the US has surrounded China and Russia with.

Some people said, what about the Uighurs, so I put out videos of Uighurs having fun days out at the market and at shopping centres? They got to see real people, who were friendly, relaxed, and happy, not the dark evil enemy they conjure up in their tiny, paranoid minds.

Some said that China stole American technology (IP theft), so I tweeted them the article below.

Huawei sues Verizon for alleged patent violations

US carrier accused of using 12 patents without authorization

Huawei has announced that it’s suing Verizon for alleged patent violations, marking the latest twist in the Chinese tech giant’s adversarial relationship with the US. The lawsuit, filed in the Eastern and Western district courts in Texas, claims that Verizon is using 12 patents owned by Huawei without authorization.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/6/21125997/huawei-verizon-patent-violation-lawsuit

I showed them the stunning beauty of Shenzhen, against two decrepit run down US cities

Carl Zha Tweet

Young people having fun at a concert in China

Wuhan is what happens when a central gov act decisively to crush COVID19: whole city lockdown, hospital build in 7 days, 11 million tested, life returns to normal aft 3 month
This could be you had your gov acted effectively 



                           Shenzhen



California 

                   


The most beautiful metro line in #Nanjing China 


                   


A day out at a Uighur market




25 comments:

Peter Pan said...

By comparison I'm so lazy I don't even have a twitter account.

Matt Franko said...

Using young people to accelerate herd immunity....

Looks like we are about there.... maybe they see that and are trying to play catch up...

We’re Getting 15-20% new antibody plus the 50% T-Cell already present....

https://twitter.com/jamestodaromd/status/1295815995081269252?s=21

Sentiment not expecting a Covid collapse....

Matt Franko said...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25568072/

Resident Memory T Cells in Human Health and Disease
Rachael A Clark
Affiliations expand
PMID: 25568072 PMCID: PMC4425129 DOI: 10.1126/scitranslmed.3010641
Abstract
Resident memory T cells are non-recirculating memory T cells that persist long-term in epithelial barrier tissues, including the gastrointestinal tract, lung, skin, and reproductive tract. Resident memory T cells persist in the absence of antigens, have impressive effector functions, and provide rapid on-site immune protection against known pathogens in peripheral tissues.

Matt Franko said...

“(5/5): 26.4% of all hospital beds are available; 23% of ICU beds are also available. The pre-pandemic percentages were 12.6% of beds with 9.3% of ICU beds available.“

https://twitter.com/govrondesantis/status/1295395716123238400?s=21

Less being done than even before the Covid.. whole thing is a .scam...

Matt Franko said...

“ Resident memory T cells persist in the absence of antigens,”

Then why even do antibody tests?

Matt Franko said...

“ against two decrepit run down US cities”

Right out of the left wing incompetent non discriminating moron playbook 101...

If it’s a Democrat generated problem you say “it’s the US!” when it is a GOP generated problem you say “it’s Republicans!”

Kevin I hope you and Tom are on the DNC payroll because if you’re not you should be....

Kaivey said...

It's addictive, keep well away. I'm not going to change the world. I'm now in debate with the anti-vaxxers, but I'm getting out early this time.

Kaivey said...

We can all find videos of the worst parts of a country and the best parts of another country, and make an unfair comparison. I'm just mirroring back to the xenophobes their prejudice. They can then see their double standards.

Marian Ruccius said...

Until China allows foreign journalists complete free and unmonitored access to the Xinjian and its Uighur populations, the only logical conclusion is that China remains what it has been for decades -- the most violent, despotic and genocidal régime on the planet. Frankly, all your evidence Kaivey amounts to almost nothing compared to the mountains of contradictory proof of the Chinese Government's abuses.

EVERY, such as myself, that I have met who has actually worked in China, has no doubts about the utter disrespect for basic rights and human life of the Chinese Communist Party Until you give equal credence to the criticism of the Chinese Government, you will continue to play the role of western sympathizers who excused Stalin's purges and killing for decades.

Marian Ruccius said...

China, Saudi Arabia, and the fare of the Uyghurs

From 2019

"This month Erik Prince, the head of Blackwater, signed a deal with China in the name of his new company Frontier Services Group to build a training camp in the northwestern Chinese region of Xinjiang.

... Many people on the left, especially those with a fuzzy idea of socialism, welcome China’s rise as a new hegemon since anything opposed to the USA has to be backed, even if involves putting Uyghurs into concentration camps, hiring Erik Prince to make sure that those out of prison mind their p’s and q’s, and cozying up to Saudi Arabia. I don’t include myself in that wing of the left and invite you to join the club. We can and must do better."

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/03/01/china-saudia-arabia-and-the-fate-of-the-uyghurs/

Marian Ruccius said...

That said, the West certainly has its own propaganda and promotes the "yellow peril" line constantly, weaponizing racism as it does so often. I have made it clear that I am not fan of the Chinese Government, but this Grayzone / Jimmy Dore piece on false sources for Western reports on Hong Kong is very interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdN3wkdZsA8


Greg said...

5/5): 26.4% of all hospital beds are available; 23% of ICU beds are also available. The pre-pandemic percentages were 12.6% of beds with 9.3% of ICU beds available.“

https://twitter.com/govrondesantis/status/1295395716123238400?s=21

Less being done than even before the Covid.. whole thing is a .scam...


Wrong
There are more overall ICU beds available now. Much more.
We had 97 ICU beds before COVID now we have 125+ Can also turn about 30-40 more into ICU beds very quickly

Greg said...

That of course is contingent upon having a nurse available to deliver the ICU care

Matt Franko said...

Well then what is the problem?

Here is what Ive observed:

You have Population A, Population B, and Pop C...

Pop A has 50% T-Cell immunity to class C virus.. Pop B has 50% T-Cell immunity to Class C virus, Pop C ZERO t-cell immunity to class C virus...

A bunch of PopC people illegally move into PopA...

New individual configuration of Class C virus created in Pop B...

A bunch of infected PopB people travel into PopA ...

PopC people in PopA & PopA people without t-cell immunity contract and spread virus...

PopA people with T-cell immunity get cytokine storm from abnormal viral load due to PopC people who shouldnt be there...

PopC people living in PopA get scared and run back to PopC bringing virus with them...

PopB does better because they have no PopC people there...





Kaivey said...

Interesting. Thank you!

Calgacus said...

Marian Ruccius: China remains what it has been for decades -- the most violent, despotic and genocidal régime on the planet.

You've got to be kidding. That title is held by the USA. We are number one. They're angels compared to us.

By the way, Louis Proyect is not a very reliable source. He doesn't seem to really understand the concept of "honesty" when it conflicts with "What I, Proyect, Know To Be True About My Adversaries". When I politely pointed out to him at his blog that claims he made about statements of Adolph Reed were not supported by the sources he cited and that I'd never seen Reed behave that way - Proyect said he didn't understand my point - which was that "Lying is bad".

Matt Franko said...

Greg from NIH paper above:

"Although these cells likely evolved to provide rapid immune protection against pathogens, autoreactive, aberrantly activated, and malignant resident memory cells contribute to numerous human inflammatory diseases including mycosis fungoides and psoriasis. "

The lung inflammation may just be in the T-cell immunity cohort that should not be experiencing the viral load due to the contemporary conduct of migration and travel ...

if were going to continue unregulated open borders then were going to have to figure out how to reduce the viral load that the already T-cell immune cohort are experiencing...

in Darwin terms, your chimpanzee ancestors didnt have aircraft that evolved along side them so the system would never have evolved from the apes by random chance mutation to expect to experience that level of viral load in the 50% cohort that is already t-cell immune even if a new individual form of the class of virus came in...

Probably the inevitable negative externalities to all the human trafficking thats been going on for the last couple of decades...

Marian Ruccius said...
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Marian Ruccius said...

Calgacus: sadly, the US does not hold the title, because of China's decades-long campaign of genocide in Tibet, its genocidal activity for the last 15 years in Xinjian, its organ harvesting and killing of Falung Gong, its many penal executions, and many other abuses.

I AGREE it is a close thing -- according to the Washington DC-based Physicians for Social Responsibility (PRS), the US is responsible for some 1.3 million deaths in its recent wars, and then of course there are Trump/Obama's contributions to the genocide in Yemen, the million children that Bill Clinton killed through his Iraq sanctions, and US-promoted killings in Central America etc. But I believe that that is still something less than the Chinese killing. (The US may be responsible for a greater amount of suffering -- think of the Palestinians -- but that is so hard to measure.)

What is remarkable is how these two fascist governments, the US and Chinese governments, resemble each other -- take their mutual love of convict labour and capital punishment ...

Matt Franko said...

“ the US is responsible for some 1.3 million deaths in its recent wars “

That is complete bullshit... by any reasonable historic estimate it SHOULD HAVE BEEN 10x that but it was not...

Matt Franko said...

“ What is remarkable is how these two governments, the US and Chinese governments, resemble each other --“

Yo all China does is copy us... duh...

Matt Franko said...

https://twitter.com/ethicalskeptic/status/1296284142737465354?s=21

Peter Pan said...

Cue "second wave" sometime before November.

Matt Franko said...

They’re already trying to hype it....

Matt Franko said...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-19/u-s-infections-rise-0-8-europe-cases-flare-up-virus-update

“ Robert Redfield, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said the coronavirus outbreak in the U.S. South is starting to slow, and that deaths across the country should start dropping next week.”