Saturday, December 5, 2020

French police launch crackdown on mosques suspected of 'Islamic separatism'

 French authorities said at least 2,600 Muslim places of worship were set to be inspected with plans to close dozens of them. 


The raids took place in Paris, Lyons, Marseille and other cities, according to French interior minister Gerald Darmanin, who is spearheading a campaign against perceived Islamic separatism in France.


The Middle Eastern Eye 

French police launch crackdown on mosques suspected of 'Islamic separatism'

12 comments:

Ralph Musgrave said...

Macron is a dick-head. A couple of people get beheaded in France and all of a sudden he realises Islam is a problem. It's been a problem for dozens of countries which have allowed Muslims in for the last thousand years!!!

Next up: Russians nuke Paris and Macron realises the Russians have nukes....:-)

Ahmed Fares said...

Ralph Musgrave paints with a wide brush.

Despite the fact that all terrorism comes from one particular sect of Islam, namely the Wahhabis (Salafis) in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, and their ilk in Al-Qaeda and ISIS, Ralph wants you to think that all Muslims are killers.

In 2016 at the Chechnya conference, Saudis were excommunicated from Sunni Islam:

This past August (2016) well over 200 senior Muslim Scholars from around the world met in Grozny, Chechnya for a 3 day conference to decree what and who Sunni Muslims are, the result was the Excommunication of the Salafi sect from Sunni Islam along with the Islamic universities of Saudi Arabia, which they stated are not teaching orthodox Islam, an issue the Saudi government has acknowledged in the past and unsuccessfully tried to address.

Now of course, Western media ignore these types of things. But if a Wahhabi runs around the streets of Europe with a knife while yelling Allahu Akbar, you never hear the end of it.

As an aside, the UK is the second biggest arms supplier to Saudi Arabia, this while it commits war crimes in Yemen. Perhaps Ralph has an opinion on that.

Robert Fisk: For the first time, Saudi Arabia is being attacked by both Sunni and Shia leaders

Link: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/saudi-arabia-attacked-sunni-shia-leaders-wahhabism-chechenya-robert-fisk-a7322716.html

Matt Franko said...

Ahmed, from what sect are the Uighurs?

Ahmed Fares said...

From Wikipedia:

Modern Uyghurs are primarily Muslim and they are the second-largest predominantly Muslim ethnicity in China after the Hui. The majority of modern Uyghurs are Sunnis, although additional conflicts exist between Sufi and non-Sufi religious orders. While modern Uyghurs consider Islam to be part of their identity, religious observance varies between different regions. In general, Muslims in the southern region, Kashgar in particular, are more conservative. For example, women wearing the veil (a piece of cloth covering the head completely) are more common in Kashgar than some other cities. The veil, however, has been banned in some cities since 2014 after it became more popular. There is also a general split between the Uyghurs and the Hui Muslims in Xinjiang and they normally worship in different mosques. The Chinese government discourages religious worship among the Uyghurs, and there is evidence of thousands of Uyghur mosques including historic ones being destroyed. According to a 2020 report by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, since 2017, Chinese authorities have destroyed or damaged 16,000 mosques in Xinjiang.

In the early 21st century a new trend of Islam, Salafism, emerged in Xinjiang, mostly among the Turkic population including Uyghurs, although there are Hui Salafis. These Salafis tend to demonstrate pan-Islamism and abandoning nationalism in favor of a desired caliphate to rule Xinjiang in case of she became independent from China, although it can be misleading. Many Uyghur Salafis have allied themselves with the Turkistan Islamic Party in response to growing repression of Uyghurs by China.


From what I can tell, some Uyghurs became radicalized by Wahhabism (Salafism) and the Chinese government cracked down on all Muslims. Reports differ as to how much persecution they are suffering.

For the record, I am a Sufi (Sunni). I also have ten years in the study of comparative religion. Spirituality is my passion.

Peter Pan said...

Macron is more concerned with the yellow vest movement, and unions.

Matt Franko said...

Sounds like France is starting the same program as China has been doing...

Peter Pan said...

French society is a riot. Literally.

Tom Hickey said...

Sounds like France is starting the same program as China has been doing...

Another paradox of liberalism.

France is by law a "secular state" and French law is quite strict on this, much more so than the US.



If French law were imposed in the US much of America would be up in arms about lack of freedom of religion, that is, free to be non-secular in public life.

Regarding repression of minorities, no country allows "subversion," "sedition," "secession," "revolution" as violent overthrow of the government, etc., and certainly not "terrorism." All of which the government gets to define in law.

The government also gets to define the boundaries of good order. Different jurisdictions vary over where and how the lines are drawn. Liberalism is not cut and dried any more than traditionalism, fascism, communism, feudalism, or monarchy are. Political theory and its application vary.

See also Islam in China on this.

Tom Hickey said...

For some reason, this Wikipedia link did not appear in the above comment.

Secularism in France

Peter Pan said...

If they would treat terrorism as a law & order issue, it would barely make the news. But of course the TPTB have to politicize it. They have to create conditions that encourage it.

France is a colonialist disgrace. By far the greatest perpetrator of violence is the republic and its institutions.

Ahmed Fares said...
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Ahmed Fares said...

"The impetus for the spread of the interpretations through the Muslim world was "the largest worldwide propaganda campaign ever mounted" (according to political scientist Alex Alexiev), "dwarfing the Soviets’ propaganda efforts at the height of the Cold War" (according to journalist David A. Kaplan), funded by petroleum exports which ballooned following the October 1973 War. One estimate is that during the reign of King Fahd (1982 to 2005), over $75 billion was spent in efforts to spread Wahhabi Islam. The money was used to establish 200 Islamic colleges, 210 Islamic centers, 1,500 mosques, and 2,000 schools for Muslim children in Muslim and non-Muslim majority countries. The schools were "fundamentalist" in outlook and formed a network "from Sudan to northern Pakistan". The late king also launched a publishing center in Medina that by 2000 had distributed 138 million copies of the Quran (the central religious text of Islam) worldwide. Along with the millions of Qurans distributed free of charge came doctrinal texts following the Wahhabi interpretation."

Wikipedia - International propagation of Salafism and Wahhabism

Of course, the Americans would later help. Here, Hillary Clinton explains how the US created Al-Qaeda to drive the Soviet Union out of Afghanistan (the first few seconds of audio are muted):

Hillary Clinton : We created Al Qaeda