Saturday, September 8, 2018

Neil Clark - Libya in chaos seven years after NATO's 'liberation', but who cares?

Nikki Haley says Nicaragua is run by a dictator and the US needs to intervene on humanitarian grounds to save ordinary people who are suffering under its murderous regime. But the liberal interventionists said the same thing about Libya and now look at mess the  country has been left in? 

I don't  know how Nikki Haley can get up on the world stage and lie so blatantly. Perhaps these people really do believe that if you open everything up to US style free market capitalism then everything is fine, even if the majority of people are left in squalor while rich westerners get to own all the resources. Perhaps they actually believe in the protestant work ethic and believe that ordinary Nicaraguans and Libyans should work their butts off and become rich too, and if they fail, then that's their own hard luck, because they didn't work hard enough, or were smart enough? Hey, why not vote in a leftist government to help the poor have a better chance of making it. Oh no, that would be a dictatorship because that's big government. That has to be smashed for the sake of 'democracy and freedom', you see.  KV.


As I argued in a previous op-ed, the Western assault on Libya was an even worse crime than the invasion of Iraq because it came later. There was really no excuse for anyone, seeing how the 'regime change' operation of 2003 had turned out, supporting a similar venture in North Africa.
Yet, those responsible for what happened have faced no comeback. The UK Prime Minister at the time, David Cameron, is blamed for Brexit (by Remainers), but not for what he did to Libya and the claims he made to justify the military action. This is despite a House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee reportconcluding, five years later, that "the proposition that Muammar Gaddafi would have ordered the massacre of civilians in Benghazi was not supported by the available evidence."
Nicolas Sarkozy, the French President in 2011, faces a trial (or trials) in relation to three different investigations, including accepting money from Gaddafi to help his election campaign, but he has not yet been prosecuted for his role in the war.
Bernard-Henri Levy, the philosopher considered by some to be the intellectual godfather of the Western intervention - and who boasted "we are the first to say that Qaddafi is no longer the legal representative," is performing a one-man anti-Brexit play, as the country he helped 'liberate' burns. 

Stateside and in 'liberal' circles across the West, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are lionised for not being Donald Trump, but what the duo did to Libya is far worse than anything Trump has done up to now.
Libya has rival governments but even they don't control the majority of the country. There is no 'rule of law', only the rule of the gun. Libya's regression from the country with the highest Human Development Index figure in the whole of Africa just ten years ago, to a fragmented and very dangerous failed state, is hard to take in. Last year, the UN Agency IOM reported that slave markets had returned to the country. 

 RT.


Neil Clark - Libya in chaos seven years after NATO's 'liberation', but who cares?

7 comments:

Konrad said...

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PART 1 of 2

“Nikki Haley says that Nicaragua is run by a dictator and the US needs to intervene on humanitarian grounds to save ordinary people who are suffering under its murderous regime. But the liberal interventionists said the same thing about Libya and now look at the mess that Libya has been left in.” ~ Kaivey

Nicaragua has a large trade deficit. In order to keep buying imports, Nicaragua must borrow in foreign currency. And indeed Nicaragua has taken loans from the IMF, which always come with neoliberal demands. One demand was that the retirement age for pensions be raised, and that worker contributions be raised, and that benefits be reduced. Another IMF demand was that Nicaragua privatize its resources and infrastructure (i.e. hand them to the rich).

Therefore Nicaragua’s government has taken some steps toward neoliberalism. This is one reason for Nicaragua’s riots.

Why then is Nikki Haley screaming? The reason is that Nicaragua’s government continues to have a somewhat independent foreign policy. For example, in 2010 Nicaragua broke diplomatic relations with Israel, because of Israeli atrocities. In April 2017, Nicaragua's government re-established relations with Israel because the IMF demanded it as a condition of IMF loans. However Nicaragua’s government disobeyed IMF orders to break relations with Iran. This infuriates Nikki Haley.

For the Empire, it is not enough for a national government to go neoliberal. The national government must also worship Israeli atrocities, and condemn Iran (and Russia and North Korea). Otherwise the Empire will target the government for elimination.

In Libya, Gaddafi turned over the government to his sons, who started to make neoliberal “reforms.” Bashar al Assad of Syria likewise started to make neoliberal “reforms.” However the Libyan and Syrian governments refused to grovel to Israel. Hence the Empire targeted Libya and Syria for destruction.

“I don't know how Nikki Haley can get up on the world stage and lie so blatantly.”~ Kaivey

She does it because most of the world lets her get away with it. Most of the world lets the USA and Israel get away with their endless crimes. Therefore the crimes will continue forever, or until the USA collapses.

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Konrad said...

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PART 2 of 2

“Perhaps these people really do believe that if you open everything up to US style free market capitalism then everything is fine, even if the majority of people are left in squalor while rich westerners get to own all the resources. Perhaps they actually believe in the protestant work ethic and believe that ordinary Nicaraguans and Libyans should work their butts off and become rich too, and if they fail, then that's their own hard luck, because they didn't work hard enough, or were smart enough?” ~ Kaivey

They do not believe this. Neoliberals knowingly lie because their joy is a product of other people’s suffering. No matter how wealthy they become, neoliberals do not feel “rich” unless the 99% are in agony.

Incidentally the USA does not have free market capitalism, and does not promote it anywhere. Instead, the USA promotes neoliberalism (i.e. feudalism) in which wealthy oligarchs own and control everything and everyone -- including all markets.

Libya had the highest living standards of any of Africa’s 54 nations, until NATO destroyed Libya. It is bad enough to live in hell, but it is worse to go from paradise to hell. Such hells are paradises for neoliberals.

“Hey, why not vote in a leftist government to help the poor have a better chance of making it? Oh no, that would be a dictatorship because that's big government. That has to be smashed for the sake of 'democracy and freedom', you see.” ~ Kaivey

Any government that the Empire disapproves of, for whatever reason, is a “dictatorship” that “gasses its own people.” When the Empire attacks a “dictatorship,” the Empire claims that the “dictatorship” is facing an internal “civil war.” Therefore when the Empire destroys a nation, the Empire claims that it has “intervened.”

For the Empire there was no World War I and II. Instead, there was “World Intervention I and II.”

Hiroshima was not nuked. Instead, Hiroshima was “intervened.”

EVERYONE PLEASE STOP USING THE EMPIRE’S B.S. EUPHEMISM “INTERVENE.”

Matt Franko said...

“There was really no excuse for anyone,”

Libya reneged on the release of the Pan Am bomber deal....

Noah Way said...

“Protracted negotiations with the Libyan leader, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, and the imposition of UN economic sanctions against Libya brought the two accused to trial in a neutral country.“ wiki

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Konrad said...

@ Noah Way:

Contrary to the Franko-monkey, there was never any proof that Libya bombed Pan Am Flight 103.

However there was plenty of reason to suspect Israel's Mossad.

Consider…

PLO Leader Yasser Arafat had renounced all forms of terrorism, and had agreed to all of Israel's demands, including his public acknowledgement of the holocaust™ and Israel's "right to exist." Arafat was also scheduled to give his very first speech at U.N. headquarters in New York, where he intended to talk of peace, peace, peace. The world was highly anticipatory. Everyone thought that after decades of Israeli atrocities, peace might finally be at hand. But just two days before Arafat was scheduled to speak, Pan Am Flight 103 was destroyed (21 Dec 1988) along with 259 people. The Israelis blamed it on Arafat and the Palestinians, but President Reagan overruled them and blamed it on Gaddafi (with no proof). Reagan had spent eight years vilifying Gaddafi, and helping Israel to bomb Libya. The destruction of Pan Am 103 was carried out during the very last days of Reagan’s presidency, and Reagan wanted to take his final swipe at Gaddafi.

Those are the facts. No one disputes them.

What is not a fact (i.e. what I cannot prove ) is that Mossad planted the bomb on Pan Am 103. Certainly Israel had the far more pressing motive than Libya did. The bombing turned the world against the Palestinians once again. Mission accomplished.

In 2003, Gaddafi accepted responsibility for the Lockerbie bombing and (contrary to the Franko fool) paid compensation to the families of the victims, although Gaddafi maintained that he had never been involved in the bombing in any way. The following year (11 Nov 2004) the Israelis assassinated Arafat. In 2011 NATO destroyed Gaddafi and all of Libya.

I don’t expect Franko to know any of this. But then, I don’t expect that fool to know anything at all.

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Noah Way said...

I was only debunking the bunker-in-chief's specific comment. There are holes in the official story big enough to fly a 747 through.

History is not a science degree, it’s a liberal arts degree. Go figure.

Matt Franko said...

You guys live in a fantasy world... they reneged...