Friday, January 17, 2020

Politically Motivated Attempts to Own or Disown China as “Capitalist” — Peter Cooper

There are often attempts in the west to depict China as capitalist rather than socialist. After decades of China going from strength to strength on macroeconomic criteria – and in view of its undeniable achievement in reducing poverty at a rate unmatched in recorded human history – some on the right wish to deny that this could have been accomplished through socialism and so instead claim China to be capitalist. At the same time, there are those on the left who wish to distance notions of socialism from China’s economic system and especially its record on human rights....
Heteconomist
Politically Motivated Attempts to Own or Disown China as “Capitalist”
Peter Cooper

14 comments:

Kaivey said...

It took me a while to find

http://heteconomist.com/politically-motivated-attempts-to-own-or-disown-china-as-capitalist/

Kaivey said...

It's still socialist, and with this socialism it's been incredibly powerful at driving the economy, but for ordinary people that socialism may not that great, in the same way that capitalism in the West isn't that great for the majority.

I've always hoped that eventually China would produce a European type welfare state, but I've read how the Chinese people are, in fact, very conservative and that the 'conservative work ethic' is very a strongly held belief. I tend to think the Chinese government view the harsh work ethic as a way of catching up with the West fast and so then be able to defend itself better.

Matt Franko said...

The whole thing over there is a scam for their elites to accrue USD balances....

Peter Pan said...

Was China socialist™ during the Great Leap Forward?

I'd drop that brand name if I were them.

Peter Pan said...

Xi-ism ©®™

Matt Franko said...

His daughter goes to Harvard... the whole thing is a scam....

S400 said...

”the whole thing is a scam....”

Matt the expert... on brain farts.

Marian Ruccius said...

China is FASCIST. Its growth has also greatly depended on its capacity to stifle dissent, and its capacity to build and sustain a middle class has in no small degree depended on its use of convict labour. Cooper is not incorrect in his analysis, but China has depended on repression to subdue local ecological opposition, and mass displacement of populations not only without consent but also without compensation. China is also quasi fascist in the identitarian sense, for, while it has protected many smaller minorities, it has also depended on destroying Tibetan and Uighur self-determination, usin Tibet and Xinjian as LEBENSRAUM, stealing and overharvesting natural endowments.

Matt Franko said...

Yeah but in a good way....

Matt Franko said...

Now they’ve brewed up ANOTHER super bug too...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/18/world/asia/china-virus-wuhan-coronavirus.html

Marian Ruccius said...

That's the problem eh! How do you judge a system -- or a leader -- which has done both great good and great ill? It is the "Churchill problem" -- the great scourge of NAZIs who starved 2 million or so Bengalis to death.

Marian Ruccius said...

TERRIFYING.

Peter Pan said...

Ogres are like onions. They have layers :)

Matt Franko said...

"A mere 6,000 years for modern man, "

JR I heard there is a new thesis out the this is really 9.5 million years.... the one guy said 7 and the other guy said 12 so they got together and are now together saying 9.5...