Saturday, August 21, 2021

Jonathan Jarry M.Sc.-The Doomsday Prophecy of Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche

A Belgian virus expert has scared the Internet by claiming the COVID-19 vaccines will doom humanity. No need to panic


No need to worry about leaky vaccines - the virus mutates faster in unvaccinated people.


The COVID-19 pandemic has attracted a swarm of vocal contrarians like little else in the recent past. These public commentators, often bedazzled with advanced degrees, have painted themselves as brave mavericks escaping from the mainstream herd to denounce the cataclysmic consequences of public health measures. The latest example of this phenomenon comes in the form of Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, who recently published an alarming manifesto. In it, Dr. Bossche makes a number of incorrect or exaggerated claims about the use of mass vaccination during a pandemic and urges international health authorities to stop the current crop of COVID-1vaccines or else risk unleashing “a global catastrophe without equal.” This is scary stuff, but it’s all quite misguided.



12 comments:

lastgreek said...

He's been ridiculed by his peers for getting the basics of biology wrong :(

Andrew Anderson said...

No need to worry about leaky vaccines - the virus mutates faster in unvaccinated people.


While the mutations in the vaccinated are "better" qualitatively speaking?

In a second experiment, unvaccinated and vaccinated chickens were infected with one of the five Marek’s disease strains, and then put into a second arena with a second set of unimmunized birds, known as sentinels. In particular, the team was interested in a middle-of-the-road strain called “595” and whether it would become hotter.

It did. The virus spread to sentinel birds nine days faster if it came from a vaccinated chicken versus an unvaccinated one. In addition, sentinels died faster when exposed to vaccinated chickens versus unvaccinated chickens.

“One way to look at that experiment is that shows vaccinating birds kills unvaccinated birds. The vaccination of one group of birds leads to the transmission of a virus so hot that it kills the other birds, said Read said. “If you vaccinate the mothers, the same thing happens. The offspring are protected by the maternal antibodies of the mother and that allows the virus in the chicks to transmit before they kill the host. So they transmit and kill the other individuals.”
from https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous

And don't count on endless vaccine upgrades either so not only do we risk committing genocide on the poor 3rd world but even those who can afford the latest vaccines may be helpless in the face of future variants.

Joe said...

"shows vaccinating birds kills unvaccinated birds." Makes me even more in favor of the covid vaccines... I kid... kind of..

Peter Pan said...

This article is out of date. The vaccines being used do not prevent transmission, and in many countries, it is the vaccinated who form the majority of the population. That is where adaptations are taking place.

The current crop of vaccines are not fit for purpose. They can save vulnerable individuals, but that protection will continue to fade. In the face of this evidence, mass vaccination of the population should be halted. The time to reformulate these vaccines is past due.

Peter Pan said...

Where is the evidence that variants are recent?
Delta could have been present at the start of the pandemic.
When no one was was vaccinated, there was no reason for it to predominante.

Joe said...

Wow, you're really stretching if you're saying delta has been present since the beginning, as if they haven't been doing sequencing since the beginning.. there's zero evidence that it's the already vaccinated that are causing the bulk of the transmission.

Calgacus said...

Wow, you're really stretching if you're saying delta has been present since the beginning, as if they haven't been doing sequencing since the beginning.. there's zero evidence that it's the already vaccinated that are causing the bulk of the transmission.

There was every reason for delta to predominate if it existed. Since delta is much more transmissible than the original, what possible reason could there be for it dominating only recently - except for being a recent mutation? The only possible, forget plausible, explanation I can think of is that Dr. Evil created it and kept it in his lab, and released it at the best time to further his diabolical plans.

Even in the absence of knowledge of the chronology of the sequencing, surely one could get quite solid estimates for when the mutation occurred from that fact alone.

Peter Pan said...

The claim is that Delta appeared in India earlier this year. That was the wave blamed on India's failure to vaccinate a sufficient percentage of its population. So why would Delta be different to variants (Alpha, Beta, Gamma) that developed prior to the release of any vaccines?

If it were a selection pressure, odds for a Delta variant would exist in heavily vaccinated countries. The narrative wants to blame the unvaxxed for these variants, so what supposedly began in India as a random chance mutation, shows up in Israel as a spike in cases among the heavily vaccinated population.

Lambda variant in Peru makes more sense, but is this based on evidence? Odds are not evidence.

From what I've read, the viral sequencing is computer generated. The best that virology can do is produce a tissue culture that may include a sequence from a virus. They consider this to be "isolating" the virus. Is it comparable to the isolation of bacteria? No.

We can't diagnose Covid from symptoms. The only way we know someone has Covid is if a test says they do. The patient may be on their death bed, or asymptomatic. Yet somehow we're able to detect and track variants, without having tested everyone to know who got what variant, and when.

Joe said...

They track variants with sampling techniques. The strengths and weaknesse are well studied, eg sample vs population statistics.

The comparison of leaky vaccines to antibiotics resistance is very interesting actually. A counterpoint is flu vaccines which are very leaky, I think anyways, they generally offer only a partial protection as they make a guess as to the dominant strain, and that hasn't created disaster. Albeit fewer people get them.

But as the article points out, it's better to be a vaccinated chicken, and virtually all chickens get that particular vaccine. All the more reason to get your covid shots. From a purely cold hard calculating pov, the bulk of the unvaccinated group are my political enemies, so it's in my interest for the leaky vaccine hotter virus theory to apply here as I'm willing to take whatever booster shots.. cull the crazies that keep us from having nice things... but the entire thought does make me uncomfortable though.

lastgreek said...

"The only possible, forget plausible, explanation I can think of is that Dr. Evil created it and kept it in his lab, and released it at the best time to further his diabolical plans."

What I find puzzling is why hasn't MI6 put any of its Double O agents on the case. (Yes, I know Sean Connery passed away earlier this year. But Daniel Craig is still active.)

Also, regarding "much more transmissible... the delta variant is a more "fitter" variant.

Andrew Anderson said...

I'm willing to take whatever booster shots.. Joe

What I'm reading is that subsequent shots of vaccine come with more and more unpleasant side effects to the point that people often refuse them after the second shot.

Peter Pan said...

A choice between vaccines with a 1 in 30000 chance of side effects, or Hydroxychloroquine, which has been used for decades? More would choose the latter if their government would get out of their way.

India, and countries in Africa that use HCQ as preventative medicine have reported lower death rates from Covid.

There were also reports that asthmatics have a lower death rate, due to their medication.

The comparison of leaky vaccines to antibiotics resistance is very interesting actually. A counterpoint is flu vaccines which are very leaky, I think anyways, they generally offer only a partial protection as they make a guess as to the dominant strain, and that hasn't created disaster. Albeit fewer people get them.

How many would get the flu shot if there were a 24/7 media campaign to promote them?

Attempts at developing a coronovirus vaccine in the past have failed. And this unprecedented experiment appears to be on a path to more failure.